*Author

Kael Hate

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65556#msg65556
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2010, 08:14:01 pm »
The link is to an image of Eos and satisfies most of your requirements: ocean (water), birds flying (air), clean sky.  And since she's the actual goddess of Dawn, that should cover the sunlit/morning sun bit (light).

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Eos.jpg
Argh thats ugly. Um pass. Not a sculpture or totem or the like.

You could also use the simple trick of transforming the original image to vector graphics to give it that "art look".


Looks pretty cool. A better tone than my soft pastel edit.

Offline Boingo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1605
  • Reputation Power: 26
  • Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65649#msg65649
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2010, 12:21:22 am »
The link is to an image of Eos and satisfies most of your requirements: ocean (water), birds flying (air), clean sky.  And since she's the actual goddess of Dawn, that should cover the sunlit/morning sun bit (light).

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Eos.jpg
Argh thats ugly. Um pass. Not a sculpture or totem or the like.
Just try to use something not so wildly inaccurate or change the name.
Bring back Holy Cow!

Kael Hate

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65695#msg65695
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2010, 02:32:16 am »
The link is to an image of Eos and satisfies most of your requirements: ocean (water), birds flying (air), clean sky.  And since she's the actual goddess of Dawn, that should cover the sunlit/morning sun bit (light).

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Eos.jpg
Argh thats ugly. Um pass. Not a sculpture or totem or the like.
Just try to use something not so wildly inaccurate or change the name.
Wildly Inaccurate?

It could be a stick or a rock facing the dawn. The card is Faces East Totem and Dawn Totem, not god of dawn or anything like that. Check out Dusk totem.

Jaxly

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65739#msg65739
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2010, 04:26:25 am »
It's a good idea, but as the game develops and more combos become possible the demand for new versions of this type of card would rise. Eventually you'd be in a worse situation than with a duo pillar ~ 95000 variations or something I think. I reckon if this card were implemented it would encourage combos between specific elements outside of rainbow - definitely a good thing - But severely limit the combos that aren't contained in the set. Maybe this would actually help the game, making it more difficult to forge links between totally dissimilar elements does make sense. I'd like to see a card of this type integrated, but I think you might just be solving a short term problem rather than getting a long term solution with this card.

Offline Boingo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1605
  • Reputation Power: 26
  • Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.Boingo is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65748#msg65748
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2010, 04:55:02 am »
Just try to use something not so wildly inaccurate or change the name.
Wildly Inaccurate?

It could be a stick or a rock facing the dawn. The card is Faces East Totem and Dawn Totem, not god of dawn or anything like that. Check out Dusk totem.
Agreed.  A stick or a rock could serve as a totem, though not the most imaginative or endearing.  You'll also note that I have not posted any criticism of your Faces West/Dusk Totem because the image used comes leaps and bounds closer to approximating an actual totem.

Totem
a. An animal, plant, or natural object serving among certain tribal or traditional peoples as the emblem of a clan or family and sometimes revered as its founder, ancestor, or guardian.
b. A representation of such an object.
c. A social group having a common affiliation to such an object.

You'll notice that statues of Poseidon with a Trident are not listed, nor do they closely resemble any of the accepted meanings for the term totem. I offered you an alternative image (however heinous) of a goddess to which ancient peoples payed homage for the Dawn/East since, while it would still fail to be an actual totem, would at least be consistent with the card name and included the elements you desired.  I was merely providing you the image since it seemed you were not familiar with that part of mythology.

Look, in the end, this is your card idea.  This part of the forum is about cleaning up cards on several levels, be it problems in game play, spelling mistakes, simplifying card descriptions, etc.  In this case, it seems you came up with a novel idea, a reasonable card name and found an aesthetically pleasing image and put the 3 together without worrying about the internal dissonance.  If you posted a card named Black Adder but depicted a squirrel I would have criticized that card idea as well for the same reason (or would have at least asked you to use a black squirrel.)
Bring back Holy Cow!

Kael Hate

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65757#msg65757
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2010, 05:53:55 am »
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/totem

to·tem   /ˈtoʊtəm/  Show Spelled[toh-tuhm]  Show IPA
–noun
1.a natural object or an animate being, as an animal or bird, assumed as the emblem of a clan, family, or group.
2.an object or natural phenomenon with which a family or sib considers itself closely related.
3.a representation of such an object serving as the distinctive mark of the clan or group.
4.anything serving as a distinctive, often venerated, emblem or symbol.

I chose sculpture facing dawn for dawn totem and a sculpture facing Dusk for Dusk totem.

Kael Hate

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65766#msg65766
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2010, 06:31:50 am »
It's a good idea, but as the game develops and more combos become possible the demand for new versions of this type of card would rise. Eventually you'd be in a worse situation than with a duo pillar ~ 95000 variations or something I think. I reckon if this card were implemented it would encourage combos between specific elements outside of rainbow - definitely a good thing - But severely limit the combos that aren't contained in the set. Maybe this would actually help the game, making it more difficult to forge links between totally dissimilar elements does make sense. I'd like to see a card of this type integrated, but I think you might just be solving a short term problem rather than getting a long term solution with this card.
There are only 2 cards in this group. Those on the eastern (right) side of the elements stockpile and those on the western (left) side. As would have it Sun rises in the east so that was dawn, and sets in the west so that was dusk, and Light and Dark match those sides too.

Scaredgirl

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65818#msg65818
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2010, 11:16:03 am »
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/totem

to·tem   /ˈtoʊtəm/  Show Spelled[toh-tuhm]  Show IPA
–noun
1.a natural object or an animate being, as an animal or bird, assumed as the emblem of a clan, family, or group.
2.an object or natural phenomenon with which a family or sib considers itself closely related.
3.a representation of such an object serving as the distinctive mark of the clan or group.
4.anything serving as a distinctive, often venerated, emblem or symbol.

I chose sculpture facing dawn for dawn totem and a sculpture facing Dusk for Dusk totem.
I agree with Boing 100%. To me that image is not a totem, it's a statue.

I'm willing to bet that if you showed that image to 10,000 people and asked what it was, none of them would say "totem", but you would probably get a lot of "statue" or "poseidon".

Kael Hate

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65826#msg65826
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2010, 11:56:07 am »
I'm willing to bet that if you showed that image to 10,000 people and asked what it was, none of them would say "totem", but you would probably get a lot of "statue" or "poseidon".
Well Poseidon is gone now. I found a a Dawn Arch. Picture was updated.

Kameda

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg65935#msg65935
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2010, 04:37:57 pm »
When you first post this idea I was thinking of a image like this:


You just have to made this look like a drawing or something and change the colors and the side that the totem is looking for the other card. If you want I can try to do that.

Kael Hate

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg66342#msg66342
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2010, 03:37:59 pm »
When you first post this idea I was thinking of a image like this:


You just have to made this look like a drawing or something and change the colors and the side that the totem is looking for the other card. If you want I can try to do that.
Can you make me a Pillar in the same fashion as the totem pole you pictured, but each of the animal heads is a head of one of the elements on the card? The order of elements has to match the way they appear on the stockpile.

Kameda

  • Guest
Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg66757#msg66757
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2010, 04:11:26 am »
Oh... this is above my very limited PS skills, sorry.
I've tried to draw something, but it seems that my drawing skills fail too T_T
I'm sad now...

 

anything
blarg: