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Kael Hate

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Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56505#msg56505
« on: April 20, 2010, 05:06:59 pm »

Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem
(Quantum Mechanics)
NAME:
Faces East Totem
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Permanent (Artifact)
ATK|HP:
-
ABILITY:
Generates :water :life :aether :air :entropy :light. Consumes 1 of each other Quanta if you have any.
ART BY:
Kael Hate
IDEA BY:
Kael Hate
NAME:
Dawn Totem
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
2
TYPE:
Permanent (Artifact)
ATK|HP:
-
ABILITY:
Generates :water :life :aether :air :entropy :light. Consumes 1 of each other Quanta if you have any.
ART BY:
Kael Hate
IDEA BY:
Kael Hate
NOTES: [/color][/b]
- Clusters
- The Draining effect occurs when the trigger check for permanents resolves at the end of the attack step, then the generation occurs at the same step as the pillars quanta generation.
SERIES: [/color][/b]
QUANTUM MECHANICS - A Series of Card Ideas for Quanta Production  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5981.msg67663#msg67663)

Kameda

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56514#msg56514
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 05:16:42 pm »
A pillar that generates six quantum? I don't like it.

And why that colors? A duo that uses two of the colors that this thing generates is better than a duo that uses one quanta that is not on this.

Kael Hate

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56538#msg56538
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 05:45:25 pm »
A pillar that generates six quantum? I don't like it.

And why that colors? A duo that uses two of the colors that this thing generates is better than a duo that uses one quanta that is not on this.
It not a pillar. It has a cost to deploy and has a limit of 6.

Those elements (colours don't exist in elements the game) were chosen because they particularly face east on the Elemental Stock board and as such all the west elements are the opposite to these elements.

I don't understand your last last detail about duo. A dual producing pillar would require 132 different cards to be made so is unlikely to happen. This gives you a tool to run a 40%20%20%20% deck as long as you stay clear of the opposite element. Because of the drain effect you also lose out all that quanta gained from Nova or Quantam Pillars.

Kameda

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56570#msg56570
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 06:32:40 pm »
I call it pillar just because it's a quantum generator permanent. And colors because I changed the terms with MtG...

And, I know that make duo pillar for every combination probably won't work for the amount of card. But why separate the elements like that? I have no problems with another forms of generating quantum, but I just don't like when those new ways separate things like that.

Kael Hate

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56572#msg56572
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 06:36:15 pm »
I call it pillar just because it's a quantum generator permanent. And colors because I changed the terms with MtG...

And, I know that make duo pillar for every combination probably won't work for the amount of card. But why separate the elements like that? I have no problems with another forms of generating quantum, but I just don't like when those new ways separate things like that.
Like I said before, it relates to the way the Elements are aligned on the board. Those facing east are on the Faces east totem. Get it?

What other way would you split quanta production? Why don't you like the split?

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56574#msg56574
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 06:44:07 pm »
I really don't like this idea. Making super pillar that create :water :life :aether :air :entropy :light.
How about this
Faces East Totem
:water :life :aether :air :entropy :light per turn are generated but all other quanta are consumed per turn.

standizzle

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56581#msg56581
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 06:55:22 pm »
i cant even begin to understand your thinking in the creation of this card.

can i have what your smoking?

Kameda

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56592#msg56592
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 07:07:06 pm »
Like I said before, it relates to the way the Elements are aligned on the board. Those facing east are on the Faces east totem. Get it?

What other way would you split quanta production? Why don't you like the split?
I don't like because if this becomes a card it will cleary lead people to make decks with elements "east or west" together.
In my opinion, if a card is to be used with some specific element I think it should be one or two only. Or put all together. Not six at a time, separating the game into two sides. Like Rustler or Cremation.

Kael Hate

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56762#msg56762
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2010, 11:24:07 pm »
I really don't like this idea. Making super pillar that create :water :life :aether :air :entropy :light.
How about this
Faces East Totem
:water :life :aether :air :entropy :light per turn are generated but all other quanta are consumed per turn.
Why does it need to absorb all vs absorbing 1?
It you nova then this resolves it produces 6 and you lose 6 for doing so.


Like I said before, it relates to the way the Elements are aligned on the board. Those facing east are on the Faces east totem. Get it?

What other way would you split quanta production? Why don't you like the split?
I don't like because if this becomes a card it will cleary lead people to make decks with elements "east or west" together.
In my opinion, if a card is to be used with some specific element I think it should be one or two only. Or put all together. Not six at a time, separating the game into two sides. Like Rustler or Cremation.
If there was a range of cards that gave benefits to other groups of elements, say a card that benefited :light :water :air :aether :darkness or another that worked for :aether :darkness :time :light and others that did various other groups then surely this idea would be ok?

dragonhuman

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56765#msg56765
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 11:28:13 pm »
but would it not produce quantums if they weren't asborbed? because if so it would be overpowered as decks would be made to speicfically use only a few decks, I mean it would easily offer some good combo decks withouta need for quantum pillars

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56770#msg56770
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010, 11:36:24 pm »
but would it not produce quantums if they weren't asborbed? because if so it would be overpowered as decks would be made to speicfically use only a few decks, I mean it would easily offer some good combo decks withouta need for quantum pillars
Yes, thats the idea. A promotion of deck types that aren't Mono or Rainbow but somewhere inbetween giving the players a balance between card diversity and Efficiency in quanta production. This card helps players who use one or more of those 6 elements but stops you from using the others with any good chance.

In testing the best reliable element choices were a 2-3 element deck with 1-2 sub elements. (Sub elements are activators or non-key splashed cards). This combination worked fine within the 6 elements. Note because of the cutoff to the oposite elements, some combos don't work. Chryosara poison and Anubis Immortality. Its a trade off.

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Re: Faces East Totem | Dawn Totem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5564.msg56774#msg56774
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 11:45:12 pm »
but then at that point it would generate 6 quantums for no cost if you didn't use the other elements. its just too much quantum for too little cost if played right

 

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