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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg26909#msg26909
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 04:37:36 pm »
good idea,but it doesn't good in a upgrade deck.
WRONG, remember this card includes the effect of downgrading creatures as well.

It would kick ass against the False Gods...
Even having 6 of these puppys in a decks would only revert 6 of their creatures back to normal, and ALL of the false god's creatures are upgraded.
Might be a good idea problems I could see is the cost might be too low. Also it might need restrictions like can only be used in cards in hand. Just ideas I think this could be overpowered it would essentially be a ticket to making fg's easier.
Raised the cost by one

I like that it down grades creatures, say i had a Micro-Abomination, I could power it up with this cards if I had no mutatations in my hand, or if it had come out of my elite fate eggs.
Exactly !!

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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg27179#msg27179
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 02:13:01 am »
can this card include shields too? just to power it up a little more, like if your using dissipation sheild/field (who have different effects) to help make strategies in the field
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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg27674#msg27674
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2010, 10:32:47 pm »

I really don't get the point of this card. I'd want almost anything else in my deck before I pulled this.

Right this second my opponent has a few nymphs a Golden Dragon a Ray of Light and an Immortal. I have an Otyugh and a Firefly Queen and a half dozen skeletons.

What can I target that will make a diference? I think any other card would be better.

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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg27680#msg27680
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2010, 10:48:17 pm »
I really don't get the point of this card. I'd want almost anything else in my deck before I pulled this.

Right this second my opponent has a few nymphs a Golden Dragon a Ray of Light and an Immortal. I have an Otyugh and a Firefly Queen and a half dozen skeletons.

What can I target that will make a diference? I think any other card would be better.
A lot of creatures have different abilities with different costs when upgraded and vice-versa(ex. fallen elf/druid, puffers, FFQs just to name a few), this card can allow you to take advantage of some of the upgraded abilities without spending 1500 electrum, this way it'll give newer players an incentive on upgrading their cards. and remember that this allows downgrading of creatures as well

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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg27699#msg27699
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2010, 12:03:03 am »
A lot of creatures have different abilities with different costs when upgraded and vice-versa(ex. fallen elf/druid, puffers, FFQs just to name a few), this card can allow you to take advantage of some of the upgraded abilities without spending 1500 electrum, this way it'll give newer players an incentive on upgrading their cards. and remember that this allows downgrading of creatures as well
Still not seeing it. Add draw a card to the effect so you don't lose card advantage otherwise you could do better with a creature yourself or a destroy effect. As it stands you don't really gain or cause them a card loss during normal play.

If I knock back a Fire Fly Queen to its basic version it still pumps out fireflies I have to deal with. If I use it to pump my Queen from basic to Elite I could still be better off with another queen, a rustler, or Life Pillar to get ahead.

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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg28272#msg28272
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2010, 04:19:26 am »
A lot of creatures have different abilities with different costs when upgraded and vice-versa(ex. fallen elf/druid, puffers, FFQs just to name a few), this card can allow you to take advantage of some of the upgraded abilities without spending 1500 electrum, this way it'll give newer players an incentive on upgrading their cards. and remember that this allows downgrading of creatures as well
Still not seeing it. Add draw a card to the effect so you don't lose card advantage otherwise you could do better with a creature yourself or a destroy effect. As it stands you don't really gain or cause them a card loss during normal play.

If I knock back a Fire Fly Queen to its basic version it still pumps out fireflies I have to deal with. If I use it to pump my Queen from basic to Elite I could still be better off with another queen, a rustler, or Life Pillar to get ahead.
it brings a WHOLE NEW aspect to forming strategies with your deck in-field. to make it more flexible to opponents cards. it can also be used against your opponents creatures to make some of their cards useless. its a very good card and i think zanz should really consider implementing it. it will bring a new style of playing to almost all if not all decks.
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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg28374#msg28374
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2010, 01:40:04 pm »
this is a smartly made card(congratulations), but what happens if you use it on an already boosted creature or on a mutant? I suggest reverting it to the normal creature(just that upped-->unupped and viceversa)
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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg28381#msg28381
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2010, 02:21:17 pm »
A question for the people who think this card is playable in a uselful way can you offer me a deck with it in and how you would use it?

Also Pretend I'm playing a Rainbow deck, my only creatures are a Otyugh, a Fallen Druid and a Firefly Queen (Elite). I use Quints on them as soon as they Hit play. I do run Graveyards. When and how do you use this card against me?

I've been thinking back to when I first started to try for upped cards. Except for cost efficiency there was no reason I needed any upgraded card. As it is this card is simply card disadvantage for myself.

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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg28383#msg28383
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2010, 02:26:21 pm »
I could use it so that your oty can't eat 1 of my creatures. I could use it so that your druid gets less awesome mutations. You can't argue that you would win anyway, since as you managed to get them all on the field, my chances would be pretty much doomed.
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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg28388#msg28388
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2010, 03:14:46 pm »
Simple I played a firefly queen or two and used this card to up it(or them). You would probably assume that I did this for the extra damage and assuming that I already have a decent number fireflies as it has taken you a little while to get established. Assuming we are both using feral bonds so we both have relatively full HP by the time we got near an endgame I could have built up probably around 150 fire quanta purely through elite fireflies. If I had six fire lances in my deck would you see it coming that I had been using those fireflies to build up fire quanta in the background so I could wipe you out in one turn and even if you saw the fire lances coming how would you stop me? I doubt you have a reflective shield in your rainbow.

This card when used poorly has little effect but used very carefully it can change the entire ability of your deck. Even in the case of your fallen druid, you could play an un-quinted one and use its mutation more defensively then up it to make your own massive mutants.

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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg28393#msg28393
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2010, 03:31:15 pm »
i really like it :) a very good idea

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Re: Evolution https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3111.msg28490#msg28490
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2010, 11:01:30 pm »
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Also Pretend I'm playing a Rainbow deck, my only creatures are a Otyugh, a Fallen Druid and a Firefly Queen (Elite). I use Quints on them as soon as they Hit play. I do run Graveyards. When and how do you use this card against me?
you cant use spells on immortal creatures (duh) we can however use it on our own creatures (duh) to do more damage to you pending on what it will become. think a little please.
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