Ethereal Cut | Ethereal Slash

[RagingAlien]

NAME: Ethereal Cut ELEMENT: Time COST: 6  TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Deal 2 damage to all creatures of the opponent's mark. Immaterial is ignored.	NAME: Ethereal Slash ELEMENT: Time COST: 7  TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Deal 3 damage to all creatures of the opponent's mark. Immaterial is ignored.

ART: Emeraldtiger IDEA: an alien NOTES: one of my subscriptions to Card Designer Challenge : Epic ET Card Design Competition (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24045.0.html) I will make a Series later, when i get official agreement from Emeraldtiger to re-color his art, so I can have one from each Element. SERIES:

[OldTrees]

Why add an elemental hoser? (Elemental Hoser: a card that punishes a player for using cards from a specific element.)
Elemental hosers have not been a benefit to MTG. Why do you think they should be added here?

[RagingAlien]

I never played MTG, for a start.

Second, I plan on making a whole series to this using opposite elements, but maybe make the cards Rares or ultra-rares? Not really sure about it. Any other suggestions while still using the "Cut" or "Slash" theme?

[Rutarete]

Here's one of my least favorite lines: It's too situational.
Aether Cut is fine with the devourer concept, however the slash would be almost useless unless you know the opponent will have aether creatures.
Maybe Ethereal Cut/Slash would be a better name, because then the name isn't stuck to the situational Aether.
For the slash perhaps deal 3 damage to all creatures of the opponent's mark.
How do these suggestions sound?

[OldTrees]

I never played MTG, for a start.

Second, I plan on making a whole series to this using opposite elements, but maybe make the cards Rares or ultra-rares? Not really sure about it. Any other suggestions while still using the "Cut" or "Slash" theme?

Rarity is not a factor when balancing cards.
A series of elemental hosers would be worse than 1 hoser.

Having a multidimensional non targeting (the non targeting part is important) CC might be worth considering. (aka generalize the upgraded and try to make it less efficient than Firestorm to balance the non targeting nature)

If you could rename it to fit Rutarete's idea that would be better.

[Manipul8r]

Regardless of the hate on Aether in the card, it's a too specific anyway and would rarely see use.  I don't really like the upgraded card since it's really a more powerful Thunderstorm that for some reason can kill the creatures no other spell can kill.

Maybe focus on the quanta it generates for you.  It could absorb 2|3 random quanta and give you 7|8 of your mark instead?

[OldTrees]

Regardless of the hate on Aether in the card, it's a too specific anyway and would rarely see use.  I don't really like the upgraded card since it's really a more powerful Thunderstorm that for some reason can kill the creatures no other spell can kill.

Maybe focus on the quanta it generates for you.  It could absorb 2|3 random quanta and give you 7|8 of your mark instead?

Beware creating free cards.

[artimies7]

Ok, random blurb. Deal 2 damage to 3 random enemy creatures and generate 4 quanta of your mark. 5|4 cost. Eh?

[Manipul8r]

Regardless of the hate on Aether in the card, it's a too specific anyway and would rarely see use.  I don't really like the upgraded card since it's really a more powerful Thunderstorm that for some reason can kill the creatures no other spell can kill.

Maybe focus on the quanta it generates for you.  It could absorb 2|3 random quanta and give you 7|8 of your mark instead?

Beware creating free cards.

The unupped one is already free in that way.  It's not free unless it says 'draw a card', just acceleration.

[OldTrees]

Regardless of the hate on Aether in the card, it's a too specific anyway and would rarely see use.  I don't really like the upgraded card since it's really a more powerful Thunderstorm that for some reason can kill the creatures no other spell can kill.

Maybe focus on the quanta it generates for you.  It could absorb 2|3 random quanta and give you 7|8 of your mark instead?

Beware creating free cards.

The unupped one is already free in that way.  It's not free unless it says 'draw a card', just acceleration.

A sufficient quanta boost also would exceed the draw cost and make the card free at a cost level even if not free in every category like casting and draw costs. I said beware not because your idea would be free but that it was in the ballpark close enough that I could not tell at a glance.

Ok, random blurb. Deal 2 damage to 3 random enemy creatures and generate 4 quanta of your mark. 5|4 cost. Eh?

Random implies targeted, Targeted means immaterial creatures are ignored. The author did not want immaterial creatures ignored. Therefore random creatures should not be used.

[ninjamaster1991]

hm. I could see many thematic changes made to this card, and retooling it a little might will be good. A suggestion would be to make it absorb  quanta, or damage  or  creatures.

[RagingAlien]

ok, wait a few minutes, i'm remaking the card right now. Thanks everyone for their feedback!

EDIT: card changed! new feedback appreciated.