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Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221330#msg221330
« on: December 10, 2010, 10:19:47 pm »
NAME:
Vampire Shield
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
5 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Drains Hp from your creatures and adds it to your own Hp, if you lose hp.
Creatures can't be killed.
NAME:
Vampire Aegis
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Drains Hp from your creatures and adds it to your own Hp, if you lose hp.
Creatures can't be killed.
ART:
Thalas (me) made in spore
IDEA:
Thalas and LongDono( Steal my idea)
NOTES:
Example
You have 100 HP, and a 5/24 Gargoyle on the field and Opponent has got 8/3 Shireker.

opponent's shrieker attacks and you lose 8 HP.

The vampire shield drains from 8 Hp from your Gargoyle, you gain 8 HP

You have 100 Hp and the 5/16 Gargoyle

Vampire shield shield doesn't reduce the max health so the drained creatures can be healed.
Creatures can't be killed by Vampire shield.
If your creatures don't have Hp nothing happens.

Voodoo : if this creature survives attack, damage and status is inflicted to the oppponent as well.
The drain isn't attack so Voodoo dolls wouldn't inflict damage to opponent

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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221331#msg221331
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 10:22:18 pm »
:gravity / :darkness duo!

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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221332#msg221332
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2010, 10:23:14 pm »
Voodoo Doll + Fractal breaks this card once more.

Not to mention an army of Archangels.
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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221335#msg221335
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2010, 10:24:53 pm »
Gargoyles and angels.

Edit : I forgotten the voodoo dolls.   >:D >:D
But if the voodoo dolls would be nerfed, vampire shield wouldn't be overpowered and the voodoo doll would be used more.

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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221343#msg221343
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2010, 10:30:13 pm »
So, for this card to become balanced, another card has to be nerfed. Not sure I enjoy that. Let's toss a few ideas around and work on a solution. The main problem is Voodoo Doll. The effect is every time it survives an attack, it deals it back to the opponent. Does this shield count as doing direct damage, or indirect?
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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221348#msg221348
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2010, 10:38:14 pm »
So, for this card to become balanced, another card has to be nerfed. Not sure I enjoy that. Let's toss a few ideas around and work on a solution. The main problem is Voodoo Doll. The effect is every time it survives an attack, it deals it back to the opponent. Does this shield count as doing direct damage, or indirect?
It's direct damage but the voodoo problem has a better solution.

Voodoo : if this creature survives attack, damage and status is inflicted to the oppponent as well.

The drain isn't attack so Voodoo dolls wouldn't inflict damage to opponent

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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221349#msg221349
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2010, 10:39:44 pm »
Infection isn't an attack, it isn't even direct damage, but poison status still applies to the opponent.
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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221350#msg221350
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2010, 10:41:16 pm »
Infection isn't an attack, it isn't even direct damage, but poison status still applies to the opponent.
Infection is status, but the drain isn't.

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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221355#msg221355
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2010, 10:43:32 pm »
This shield effectively works like the spell Siphon Life. I've got an idea. Creatures that lose more than 5 health become lobotomized, to prevent massive damage to the opponent. Sort of a price to pay for hurting your own creatures, you jerk. XD JK.
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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221360#msg221360
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2010, 10:50:04 pm »
This shield effectively works like the spell Siphon Life. I've got an idea. Creatures that lose more than 5 health become lobotomized, to prevent massive damage to the opponent. Sort of a price to pay for hurting your own creatures, you jerk. XD JK.
I think that the problem with the voodoo dolls is solved, but if you still think that the Shield is OP, I make it, that Vampire Shield reduce the max Hp, but before that I want to know other poeple think about this card

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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221542#msg221542
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2010, 02:10:17 am »
 ok keeping the Vampire skill up, i would change it to:
Shield: Blocks 1/2 damage, all creatures with no ability gain the passive ability Vampire
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Re: Vampire Shield | Vampire Aegis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17391.msg221636#msg221636
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2010, 04:04:52 am »
You might want to specifically say how much HP has been drained in the card itself.
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