Enlightening Presence | Enlightening Presence (Elite)

[Flayne]

NAME: ***Enlightening Presence*** ELEMENT: *** *** COST: ***7 *** TYPE: ***creature*** ATK|HP: ***6|8*** ABILITY: ***When Enlightening presence enters in play, all your light creatures gain +2/+1. This effect lasts 3 turns. Immaterial***	NAME: ***Enlightening Presence*** ELEMENT: *** *** COST: ***12  *** TYPE: ***creature*** ATK|HP: ***9|6*** ABILITY: ***When Enlightening presence enters in play, all your light creatures gain +2/+1. This effect lasts 4 turns. Immaterial***

ART: ***Insert artist name*** IDEA: ***Insert card maker name*** NOTES: ***for the epic 3 card design competition. Probably WAY too overpowered.  Note: Enlightening presence is also affected by its ability*** SERIES: ***Insert series name and link to series page (if any)***

[Kuroaitou]

If I get this correctly, it's a creature card with 'Eclipse' as a passive ability (basically, Eclipse on a stick) for Light based-creatures, in which case it's also correspondingly buffed by it's own passive ability?

...AND it's immortal?

I would say that this would be overpowered, but the fact that the Eclipse effect only lasts a certain amount of turns is a good start to not make it such a strong card. If the '4 turns' also applies to its immortality effect, then that helps as well, but to me, the damage it deals (as well as its cost) seem a little off. How about you reduce the damage of both cards by say, 1 or 2, and lower the cost correspondingly?

However, if it's going to be immaterial when it comes right into play, then I feel that  would like to have a one-on-one with you in private. 

[Flayne]

Oh NO not  !!!!, I hear that guy's real Dangerous  . lol.

as i said in  the notes, its probs way too overpowered, However i was primarily thinking of not making Immaterial' included as a temporary effect, though now that u make me think about it, its much better if it is, also the atk of the creature is too much as well, i guess i should reduce damage by probs 2, just to make it less beastly then it already is lol.
or maybe i should scratch the whole immaterial thing BUT leave the attack the way it is, since the upgraded version is Much more expensive to play than the normal version, hmm... i have much to think. lol but probs your idea is better, or i should perhaps use both ideas 

[RavingRabbid]

Oh NO not  !!!!, I hear that guy's real Dangerous  . lol.

as i said in  the notes, its probs way too overpowered, However i was primarily thinking of not making Immaterial' included as a temporary effect, though now that u make me think about it, its much better if it is, also the atk of the creature is too much as well, i guess i should reduce damage by probs 2, just to make it less beastly then it already is lol.
or maybe i should scratch the whole immaterial thing BUT leave the attack the way it is, since the upgraded version is Much more expensive to play than the normal version, hmm... i have much to think. lol but probs your idea is better, or i should perhaps use both ideas 

Fractal, parallel univese, RoL-Fractal-Hope...

NO WAY!

[Flayne]

Oh NO not  !!!!, I hear that guy's real Dangerous  . lol.

as i said in  the notes, its probs way too overpowered, However i was primarily thinking of not making Immaterial' included as a temporary effect, though now that u make me think about it, its much better if it is, also the atk of the creature is too much as well, i guess i should reduce damage by probs 2, just to make it less beastly then it already is lol.
or maybe i should scratch the whole immaterial thing BUT leave the attack the way it is, since the upgraded version is Much more expensive to play than the normal version, hmm... i have much to think. lol but probs your idea is better, or i should perhaps use both ideas 

Fractal, parallel univese, RoL-Fractal-Hope...

NO WAY!

lol No way as if its a good thing or bad thing? (or possibly both?) lol