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Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg157031#msg157031
« on: September 12, 2010, 06:13:30 am »
NAME:
Steelheart
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: reduce damage by 1. You may not be given new poison counters. Lasts 3 turns.
NAME:
Chromeheart
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: reduce damage by 1. You may not be given new poison counters. Lasts 3 turns.
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Following :gravity 's metallic feel I present a surprising counter to poison decks.

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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg157041#msg157041
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 07:16:34 am »
Love the idea. Though the timer should be on, without it it would be OP. Or affect the timer to something longer if you think it's UP as of now.

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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg157042#msg157042
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 07:17:29 am »
cool idea-but it seems a bit weak. it most situations another shield is better for instance against scorpio i would rather use an emerald or reflective shield

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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg157087#msg157087
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 09:28:20 am »
While there's acidic poison and poison that rusts, I understand it's a counter to poison meant to harm organics. Now, you could probably make this block 2 damage unupped and 3 upped, since it expires. Gravity would certainly benefit from such a card.
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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg157118#msg157118
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 12:07:18 pm »
Maybe you can also make it so that it also blocks all poison damage? For 3 turns? You can take more poison damage counters but for 3 turns you will not be affected by poison...

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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg157541#msg157541
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 11:57:15 pm »
Personally, I think that removing the timer and increasing the card cost would make it slightly more beneficial for Gravity (the timer feels a little bit awkward).

Wings and Phase Shield, for example, only last a certain amount of turns not only because they basically block all attacks (Phase Shield mostly), but also because of the representation of the elemental being in that state. An elemental with Wings has to come down from some point after 'Flying' for so long, and likewise, an elemental needs to become 'tangible' again after being in the 'ethereal world' for so long. Gravity just gains a shield.

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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg157576#msg157576
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2010, 01:00:12 am »
But if the timer were to be removed this would become OP compared to quanta cost. If we were to remove the timer increase the cost to 4-6 ish

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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg157599#msg157599
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2010, 02:08:49 am »
If we were to remove the timer increase the cost to 4-6 ish
Exactly; Gravity Shield barely costs 3 :gravity upgraded. This shield can afford to be a little bit more expensive compared to its HP-based Shield counterpart. That way, you provide a diversity of shields for Gravity while also keeping them very distinct from one another (in mechanic, design, and cost). :)

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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg337132#msg337132
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 10:36:40 pm »
I like this Idea. I would allow damage to get through just not any poison.
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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg337158#msg337158
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2011, 11:37:04 pm »
this is really good. Im with emerald tiger, it should not block creature/weapon damage, but it should stop you from taking poison damage, like at all.
the upped could block 1 damage, most of the interesting shields do seem to block 1 in the upped version, jade, hope, etc.

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Re: Steelheart | Chromeheart https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12500.msg337167#msg337167
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 12:06:06 am »
The Shield Slot is meant to be the major form of defense. Weapons are not a major threat. Any card that only affects weapons is not a major form of defense. Therefore any card that only affect weapons should not be a shield.

It would work as the oft suggested but never IIRC finalized parrying weapon but not as a shield.
Is poison considered to be major enough a threat to warrant it's own shield in comparison to weapons?
IMHO, it should still block creatures since you're technically hardening yourself into steel.

 

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