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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449731#msg449731
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2012, 11:54:07 pm »
ever considerend making cards that belonged to more than just 1 element? dual cards?

because i see a reson to be gravity
and i see a reason to be entropy :P
It is ironic that you mention that on this thread.
Emerald Tiger is one of if not the major source of duality cards. (cards that cost  :aether or :air because they fit thematically as mono cards of either element)

However since this does not fit as a mono in either it should not use the OR cost. Dual cards cost X :aether + Y :air. Zanz has vetoed the idea. Reasonable so, for there is no design advantage for them in a quanta based system.

Duo card are not vetoed and do have design advantages justifying their existence in a quanta based system. Only permanents and creatures can be duos.
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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449732#msg449732
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2012, 11:56:54 pm »
Does this fit a Hybrid?
i bet many people might start saying: hybrids are a bad idea because it would resemble MtG and everything MtG has cannot be used (LOL)

i start playing MtG more 10 years ago
i prefer elements because: you CAN actually have all the cards of the game within your lifetime and money lol
MtG has so many cards its difficult to keep track of the metagame changes and such
3 years from now MtG started to lose some quality imo, now the game is too complex with too many rules and habilities etc...
elements is a much more competitive game than MtG because it is much more balanced trust me

adding hybrid cards to elements would be cool, and it would open a whole new group of cards to the game, creating more strategies and adding variety to the game

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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449733#msg449733
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2012, 12:01:40 am »
Does this fit a Hybrid?
i bet many people might start saying: hybrids are a bad idea because it would resemble MtG and everything MtG has cannot be used (LOL)
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The community has moved past that critique long ago. You missed my post (right above yours) though.
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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449735#msg449735
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2012, 12:04:13 am »
Does this fit a Hybrid?
i bet many people might start saying: hybrids are a bad idea because it would resemble MtG and everything MtG has cannot be used (LOL)
-snip-
The community has moved past that critique long ago. You missed my post (right above yours) though.
didnt know that i had a feelling people here didnt like stuff that resembled MtG

i know i took too long to write my own ><  FAIL

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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449736#msg449736
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2012, 12:08:13 am »
Does this fit a Hybrid?
i bet many people might start saying: hybrids are a bad idea because it would resemble MtG and everything MtG has cannot be used (LOL)
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The community has moved past that critique long ago. You missed my post (right above yours) though.
didnt know that i had a feelling people here didnt like stuff that resembled MtG

i know i took too long to write my own ><  FAIL
There used to be an aversion. However in time the community learned that MtG has made so many mechanics that it is 1) hard to avoid and 2) chocked full of brilliant and terrible ideas.

Intentional copying is still looked down upon for obvious reasons.
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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449738#msg449738
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2012, 12:10:32 am »
There used to be an aversion. However in time the community learned that MtG has made so many mechanics that it is 1) hard to avoid and 2) chocked full of brilliant and terrible ideas.
i completely agree with you... especially on the terrible ideas lol

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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449745#msg449745
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2012, 12:28:03 am »
I could go with only the new device or only with the gear.
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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449752#msg449752
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2012, 12:54:33 am »
I could go with only the new device or only with the gear.
Randomness is multiple possible results. Randomness is included in entropy (the scientific term). I do not expect to see randomness in an element with the theme of Order. (Even Black Hole is non random.)
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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449755#msg449755
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2012, 01:03:45 am »
I could go with only the new device or only with the gear.
Randomness is multiple possible results. Randomness is included in entropy (the scientific term). I do not expect to see randomness in an element with the theme of Order. (Even Black Hole is non random.)
yeah, now that i think about it, it goes along with entropy much better

still i would like to see true hybrid cards, using 2 types of quanta and of course, cards that would relate to those 2 elements :)

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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449756#msg449756
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2012, 01:06:14 am »
So, the gear is the best most ordered option.
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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449760#msg449760
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2012, 01:13:48 am »
So, the gear is the best most ordered option.
Yes. Turning target permanent into Permanent X is orderly.

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Re: Engineering | Advanced Engineering https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35703.msg449761#msg449761
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2012, 01:17:27 am »
So, the gear is the best most ordered option.
Yes. Turning target permanent into Permanent X is orderly.

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