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Energy | Vitality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33599.msg423879#msg423879
« on: November 11, 2011, 08:53:42 pm »
NAME:
Energy
ELEMENT:
:life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
When a :life creature is played, spawn a Giant Frog.
NAME:
Vitality
ELEMENT:
:life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
When a :life creature is played, spawn a Horned Frog.
ART:
Zblader
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Life's simple answer to some of it's metagame problems.

Counters CC by giving Life players card advantage when a creature is played, as well as forcing the opponent to use CC on an ever-growing number of Frogs.

This will occur whenever a :life creature is played (playing normally, TU, Mitosis, etc...) Mutation and Fate Egg don't count as they are transformation effects.

Energy | Vitality's ability doesn't trigger other Energies or Vitalities, but it does stack.

SERIES:

NAME:
Energy
ELEMENT:
:life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
When a :life creature is played, it gains Momentum for 2 turns.
NAME:
Vitality
ELEMENT:
:life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
When a :life creature is played, spawn a Horned Frog.
ART:
Zblader
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Life's simple answer to some of it's metagame problems.

Unupped counters shields by allowing offensive players to ignore them for a while. (This might be UP - I'm considering spreading it to all creatures or making it permanent on :life creatures only.)

Upped counters CC by giving Life players card advantage when a creature is played. Note that the Frog spawned is unupped.
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Re: Energy | Vitality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33599.msg424043#msg424043
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2011, 02:26:04 am »
The thought of this in a mono-life rush... :o
Great mono card, though - works especially well with empathetic bond.
And, unless i'm misunderstanding, there seems to be a contradiction in the notes:
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This will occur whenever a  creature is played (playing normally, TU, Mitosis, etc...) Mutation and Fate Egg don't count as they are transformation effects.

Ability activation will not trigger another Energy or Vitality, but it does stack.
Mitosis is an ability, so what is ^ supposed to say?
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Re: Energy | Vitality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33599.msg424055#msg424055
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 02:54:01 am »
The thought of this in a mono-life rush... :o
Great mono card, though - works especially well with empathetic bond.
And, unless i'm misunderstanding, there seems to be a contradiction in the notes:
Quote
This will occur whenever a  creature is played (playing normally, TU, Mitosis, etc...) Mutation and Fate Egg don't count as they are transformation effects.

Ability activation will not trigger another Energy or Vitality, but it does stack.
Mitosis is an ability, so what is ^ supposed to say?
The card's main intent is to strengthen mono-Life, which could use a boost vs. the other elements monowise.

Energy | Vitality's ability doesn't trigger other Energies or Vitalities.

Example : If I had the following : TU, 1 Rustler, and 2 Energies.
I TU the Rustler.
Energy 1 activates in response to TU and plays a Giant Frog.
Energy 2 activates in response to TU and plays a Giant Frog.

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Re: Energy | Vitality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33599.msg424060#msg424060
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2011, 03:02:16 am »
This card reminds me a bit of eclipse in the fact that for every :life creature you play, you're doing 5 extra points of damage. I suppose it also applies to your opponent, so this is way more powerful than eclipse despite costing the same. If it's stackable it's even more powerful!

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Re: Energy | Vitality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33599.msg424063#msg424063
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2011, 03:10:10 am »
This card reminds me a bit of eclipse in the fact that for every :life creature you play, you're doing 5 extra points of damage. I suppose it also applies to your opponent, so this is way more powerful than eclipse despite costing the same. If it's stackable it's even more powerful!
Consider that fact that it takes time to draw these out in the deck, and that it's spawn condition doesn't apply to all Elements (Contrast Graveyard, which does). Lower cost creatures would be favored in the deck more - and ideal and seemingly reliable combo I had though of was:
3 Vitalities (assuming that you managed to draw this many early on) + 1 Giant Frog = 14 :life, 4 Cards, and 20 Damage.
1 Mitosis + 1 Jade Dragon + 1 SoR = 19 :life, 3 Cards, and 24 damage (assuming Jade Dragon is already on the field, if not then it become 12).

Overall it's similar to the Mitosis/SoR/Dragon combo, except that it does much better against CC, and doesn't need 1-turn windup.  However it does rely more on the cards your draw early on to inflict it's damage quicker than MitoDragons - fewer Vitalities on the field make it much harder to recover from AoE CC and shields, and if you opponent manages to PC this you'll also be in trouble (especially vs. Steal).

As for whether the opponent gets the benefit from playing :life creatures - I'm not sure about that, but I don't think so at the moment. (This seems to be more along the lines of Graveyard and Mindgate).
 

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Re: Energy | Vitality https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33599.msg424825#msg424825
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 05:45:07 pm »
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