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Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022003#msg1022003
« on: December 13, 2012, 09:41:14 pm »
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ELEMENT:
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COST:
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TYPE:
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TEXT:
:time :time : Fate String
Remove Immaterial or kills target creature in four turns.
NAME:
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Death
COST:
5 :death
TYPE:
Creature
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3 | 6
TEXT:
:time : Fate String
Remove Immaterial or kills target creature in four turns.

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Based on the Moirae, or the Fates, which in Greek mythology measured out a being's lifespan.

Given :death due to the Disney adaptation depicting them as deathly hags.

Removing Immaterial always happens if target is Immaterial, else it adds a doomclock timer.

Only targets creatures.
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022007#msg1022007
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 09:49:02 pm »
What would the doomclock timer look like?

I like this idea, but I think the cost of the upped creature could stand to come down 1.
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022013#msg1022013
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 09:59:58 pm »
Probably a timer in the upper left hand corner of the card similar to as it appears on turn-based permanents.

The upgrade comes from how much more quickly you can use the ability.  Compare to Anubis in terms of upgrading.
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022015#msg1022015
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2012, 10:03:53 pm »
Adrenaline will have sinergy i guess?
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022017#msg1022017
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2012, 10:05:25 pm »
Yes, it will have synergy.
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022021#msg1022021
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2012, 10:11:55 pm »
Another 'remove immaterial' idea...

Also, why is certain death on a stick set at 4? I'm not a big fan of this.
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022025#msg1022025
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 10:29:19 pm »
Quote from: Rutarete on December 13, 2012, 10:11:55 pm
Another 'remove immaterial' idea...

Also, why is certain death on a stick set at 4? I'm not a big fan of this.
Because :death | :time need a means to not be trampled by MonoAether SoW.

3 is too short and 5 is too long to be remotely useful.
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022031#msg1022031
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 10:35:33 pm »
Quote from: Drake_XIV on December 13, 2012, 10:29:19 pm
Quote from: Rutarete on December 13, 2012, 10:11:55 pm
Another 'remove immaterial' idea...

Also, why is certain death on a stick set at 4? I'm not a big fan of this.
Because :death | :time need a means to not be trampled by MonoAether SoW.

3 is too short and 5 is too long to be remotely useful.
Why death and time and not the other 8 not mentioned? Since it's on a stick, 5 is fine. Especially at such a cheap cost. Time is built for stall, so all the better for more turns.
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022032#msg1022032
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2012, 10:40:09 pm »
You can only choose so many elements for one card.  Those two elements are the ones that fit this card.

4 is still a lot of turns to, so no reason to make it weaker than it already is.
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022063#msg1022063
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2012, 11:41:22 pm »
Quote from: Drake_XIV on December 13, 2012, 10:29:19 pm
Quote from: Rutarete on December 13, 2012, 10:11:55 pm
Another 'remove immaterial' idea...
Because :death | :time need a means to not be trampled by MonoAether SoW.
This was not a complete answer. Why 'remove immaterial' instead of another means?

PS: Why not have it remove a random immaterial status and then let you choose a target?
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Re: Moirae | Moirae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45111.msg1022251#msg1022251
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2012, 05:59:38 pm »
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Quote from: Drake_XIV on December 13, 2012, 10:29:19 pm
Quote from: Rutarete on December 13, 2012, 10:11:55 pm
Another 'remove immaterial' idea...
Because :death | :time need a means to not be trampled by MonoAether SoW.
This was not a complete answer. Why 'remove immaterial' instead of another means?

PS: Why not have it remove a random immaterial status and then let you choose a target?
The SoW combo is indeed very annoying, but outright removal of immaterial should be implemented with care as it will very greatly reduce the value of the immaterial / untargettable status.

I tend to be very wary of anything that puts it "on a stick"...

I agree that counters are needed, but I think we need something more creative than simply ripping off the untargettable status at will.

The best way to deal with overpowered SoW would be to have more cards interact with spell damage in some way. Right now all we have are mirror shield and emerald shield.
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