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Re: Emerald Scale Armor | Jade Scale Armor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56801.msg1168388#msg1168388
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2014, 08:33:37 am »
So uh.. right there you conceed and that I was right? You didn't offer a conclusion and I can see how one might think thats buffing upon release.
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Re: Emerald Scale Armor | Jade Scale Armor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56801.msg1168405#msg1168405
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2014, 12:27:43 pm »
You're both right.

Odin said Zanz started with OP cards then nerfed them, then buff and nerf in a W-pattern until they're right.
Crockett said they started out nerfed on release so their impact can be estimated.

You're both right.
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Re: Emerald Scale Armor | Jade Scale Armor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56801.msg1168426#msg1168426
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2014, 05:16:46 pm »
Now, when this is mitosis-ed, does this effect carry over to the other creature or not? I don't think there's any effects that do, but if this one did, it would make for a pretty strong combo with mono-life decks such as Mitofrogs or Mitoscorpions, etc. Oooh,  :life/ :time neurotoxin power with spell protection. Is that OP? Something to consider.
I don't think mitosis copies over statuses, buffs, etc. to the copies it makes. For instance, popping mitosis on a scorpion with momentum does not yield new scorpions with momentum. So, I don't think this status should get copied either.
Parralel universe and deja-vu should copy over the status, though, since they do so for other statuses and stat bonuses.
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Re: Emerald Scale Armor | Jade Scale Armor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56801.msg1168776#msg1168776
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2014, 03:37:00 am »
Now, when this is mitosis-ed, does this effect carry over to the other creature or not? I don't think there's any effects that do, but if this one did, it would make for a pretty strong combo with mono-life decks such as Mitofrogs or Mitoscorpions, etc. Oooh,  :life/ :time neurotoxin power with spell protection. Is that OP? Something to consider.
I don't think mitosis copies over statuses, buffs, etc. to the copies it makes. For instance, popping mitosis on a scorpion with momentum does not yield new scorpions with momentum. So, I don't think this status should get copied either.
Parralel universe and deja-vu should copy over the status, though, since they do so for other statuses and stat bonuses.

So deckbuilding-wise, a Deja Vu/Scale Armor duo would be feasible? 2 | 3 creatures with refractive isn't bad.

Ooh! Gravy Pull + This would do some heavy damage against Psion and related spell-damage cards. Just slap it on an Armagio and you've got some nice counters to Aether.
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Re: Emerald Scale Armor | Jade Scale Armor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56801.msg1168780#msg1168780
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2014, 04:43:45 am »
So deckbuilding-wise, a Deja Vu/Scale Armor duo would be feasible? 2 | 3 creatures with refractive isn't bad.

Ooh! Gravy Pull + This would do some heavy damage against Psion and related spell-damage cards. Just slap it on an Armagio and you've got some nice counters to Aether.
Thats not how gravitypull/spelldamage works.
Deja vu combo is nice, but not imba.
It will make mitosis a lot more consistent, which I like.
How does it interact with Dryspell and ragepot?
Can you fire lance your own minion in order to mass CC your opponent?
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Re: Emerald Scale Armor | Jade Scale Armor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56801.msg1168781#msg1168781
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2014, 04:54:37 am »
So deckbuilding-wise, a Deja Vu/Scale Armor duo would be feasible? 2 | 3 creatures with refractive isn't bad.

Ooh! Gravy Pull + This would do some heavy damage against Psion and related spell-damage cards. Just slap it on an Armagio and you've got some nice counters to Aether.
Thats not how gravitypull/spelldamage works.
Deja vu combo is nice, but not imba.
It will make mitosis a lot more consistent, which I like.
How does it interact with Dryspell and ragepot?
Can you fire lance your own minion in order to mass CC your opponent?
dryspell  would end up hitting some other poor creature twice. Rage potion... hmm I guess a bunch of other creatures would get a little singed and the armored creature gets a nice ATK boost.
The bolt interaction would work just like you said. In the case of ice lance,  only the actual target gets frozen though. Not the enemies. Otherwise, mass freeze would probably be a little too powerful.
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Re: Emerald Scale Armor | Jade Scale Armor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56801.msg1168782#msg1168782
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2014, 05:07:29 am »
These are the strongest synergies I can come up with:
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7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dn 7ee 7ee 7ee 8po

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7dg 7dg 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7e4 7e4 7e4 7e4 7e4 7f2 7f2 809 809 809 809 809 809 8po

both with +6 Jade Scale armor.

I would love to play with those; even if it's op, it would be a fun and creative way to beat the opponent, if I may say that.

Edit: Before anyone says it, cremation would of course still kill the target, which is why I have the minor phoenixes.
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Re: Emerald Scale Armor | Jade Scale Armor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56801.msg1169136#msg1169136
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2014, 02:50:58 pm »
These are the strongest synergies I can come up with:
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7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dn 7ee 7ee 7ee 8po

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7dg 7dg 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7e4 7e4 7e4 7e4 7e4 7f2 7f2 809 809 809 809 809 809 8po

both with +6 Jade Scale armor.

I would love to play with those; even if it's op, it would be a fun and creative way to beat the opponent, if I may say that.

Edit: Before anyone says it, cremation would of course still kill the target, which is why I have the minor phoenixes.

On the first deck, -2 emerald towers and -3 shards of bravery. You'd have a 31 card deck which is fine and recommended. Alternatively, you could take out 3 epinephrines and 3 emerald towers, change life towers to life pendulums for a strong 30 card deck. I don't find the card all that overpowered, I actually find it balanced :P
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