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Which ability is more balanced or fits better in elements game?

If opponent have 2 or more handcards, it skips attack to discard 1 opponent random handcard.
1 (10%)
If opponent have 3 or more handcards, it skips attack to discard 1 opponent random handcard.
1 (10%)
If opponent have 4 or more handcards, it skips attack to discard 1 opponent random handcard.
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Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1217751#msg1217751
« on: December 13, 2015, 02:21:26 am »
NAME:
Earth Wurms
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 2
TEXT:
If opponent more than 3 handcards, it skips attack to discard 1 opponent random handcard.
NAME:
Goo Wurms
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 6
TEXT:
If opponent more than 3 handcards, it skips attack to discard 1 opponent random handcard.

ART:
vrt http://elementscommunity.org/forum/card-art/stuff-i-made/
IDEA:

NOTES:
Radiation leaking into the ground
and affected the wurms living under it,

Getting crazy because of the intense radiation underground,
the wurms surfaced above the ground.
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NAME:
Earth Wurms
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 2
TEXT:
If opponent have 3 or more handcards, it skips attack to discard 1 opponent random handcard.
NAME:
Goo Wurms
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 6
TEXT:
If opponent have 3 or more handcards, it skips attack to discard 1 opponent random handcard.

ART:
vrt http://elementscommunity.org/forum/card-art/stuff-i-made/
IDEA:

NOTES:
Radiation leaking into the ground
and affected the wurms living under it,

Getting crazy because of the intense radiation underground,
the wurms surfaced above the ground.
SERIES:
Wrath from above (2016) Booster Pack
« Last Edit: December 16, 2015, 01:22:19 am by foxrain4 »

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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1217752#msg1217752
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2015, 02:24:04 am »
I like this card. It's a cool card. :) maybe add another attack point on the upped though ^^
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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1217778#msg1217778
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2015, 09:41:28 am »
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If opponent has 3 or more cards in hand it skips attack and forces opponent to discard a random card.

Interesting idea, though I might raise it to 4 or more cards
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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1217783#msg1217783
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2015, 11:37:45 am »
This sounds pretty broken together with nightmare and on the OP side with SoB. A little less if the discards happen all on the same turn.
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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1217784#msg1217784
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2015, 11:40:38 am »
Does the opponent choose the discard?
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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1217785#msg1217785
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2015, 11:41:31 am »
Does the opponent choose the discard?

It says random, so no.
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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1220434#msg1220434
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2016, 06:24:40 am »
Getting crazy because of the intense radiation underground,
the wurms surfaced above the ground.

So this is why the wurms don't have Burrow ability? Because the intense underground radiation makes them don't want to go back there anymore?
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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1220483#msg1220483
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2016, 08:13:05 pm »
That's a really cool idea.  I agree that 4 is probably a better limit.  This basically kills combo decks...  Also, you don't need "handcards" as that's not a word.
If opponent's hand has more than 4 cards, this skips attack and they discard 1 card at random.

Also, the upped is weird.  You get an attack boost, which doesn't matter much since ideally this won't be attacking much, and you get a huge defense boost which seems too much for an upped benefit.  I'd recommend that the upgrade either just drops the cost by 1 or maybe have the upped one be 3 or less while the unupped is 4.
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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1221697#msg1221697
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2016, 02:27:12 am »
Wait wat? So you're telling me this card simply destroys cards instead of attacking the opponent? Definitely no. This would be OP with Fractal as it would come at the mere cost of 25 :underworld to get your opponent's cards out even if they have a whole bunch of Golden/Electrum Hourglasess, Sundials etc. Anyways, I like how you tried to balance it by setting up a limit, although it just needs 15 :earth & 10 :aether(9 upgraded) to get rid of any cards and forcing opponents to always play cards, this is also specially OP with devourer since it won't allow cards inside play, due to it's quanta drain. Also, by quanta drain, I also refer to Black Hole and Amber Nymph. And if that is the case, we call to less :earth spent, meaning that no matter what, you wouldn't need the several wurms whatsoever and you would leave your opponent unable to stack cards and get around you. Let's say, your opponent has 5 cards in hand, one Golden Hourglass and some :time and :aether quanta. Your hand has 2 Goo Wurms, 1 Devourer and 1 Fractal. You play the Wurms and the Devourer, and then play Fractal on the Devourer and start draining a whole bunch of quanta (9). Your opponent's quanta generation will likely be outrun or be too poor for the to play cards, leaving two cards on hand out of the game and unable to play cards. You then get a Eclipse, adding some attack to your devourers and, your opponent would likely be dead soon as there is no more stuff for him/her to play. As though this card can go alone in a Mono Earth, it becomes more potent with Fractal and quanta drain. Even though, the unupped version could be destroyed easily, but the upped solves that problem. Also, there's the Sanctuary card, but it can be taken care of easily with a Steal you might have around if you're playing a Earth/Darkness duo. Fudge.
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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1221700#msg1221700
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2016, 02:44:33 am »
This would be OP with Fractal

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However, yes. bump it up to 4.

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Why earth? There are worse choices, mind (Keep this out of darkness, time, aether, and entropy, pls), but why earth, specifically?
Bear in mind that a wurm isn't a giant underground worm, but a wingless dragon. (Well, okay it's both but still e.e)

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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1221713#msg1221713
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2016, 03:50:33 am »

Bear in mind that a wurm isn't a giant underground worm, but a wingless dragon. (Well, okay it's both but still e.e)

You're thinking of Wyrm.  Wurms are indeed large, often underground worms.
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Re: Earth Wurms | Goo Wurms https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60741.msg1221715#msg1221715
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2016, 03:55:20 am »

Bear in mind that a wurm isn't a giant underground worm, but a wingless dragon. (Well, okay it's both but still e.e)

You're thinking of Wyrm.  Wurms are indeed large, often underground worms.
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I remember magic specifically going through a phase in its early art where people got confused between worms and wurms, and the artists often muddled them up.

Not like it matters; names are just names.

 

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