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[XYTWO]

NAME: ***Insert name*** ELEMENT: Death? Darkness? COST: 5  TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 3|3 TEXT: ???: Gain -2|+5. Spawn a new ???.	NAME: ***Insert name (upgraded)*** ELEMENT: Death? Darkness? COST: 5  TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 4|3 TEXT: ???: Gain -2|+5. Spawn a new ???

ART: ***Insert artist name*** IDEA: XYTWO NOTES: Basically, this makes a new doll and turns the user of the ability into a low-attack, high-HP kind of creature. I'm not sure whether this should go in Death or Darkness, but it should be one of the two. Nightfall does this creature a load of good. SERIES:

This is really kind of a bare-bones concept right now. Any help on theme would be appreciated.

[OldTrees]

[ being used to represent generic elemental quanta. No relation to the team or quanta.]

Can the skill cause the attack to go negative?

If no then the upgraded gets a second use causing it to act in a very different manner than unupped.

Turn	Unupped Total Damage	Unupped Total Cost	Upgraded Total Damage	Upgraded Total Cost
+0	3	5	4	5
+1	7	7	10	7
+2	12	9	20	11
+3	18	11	36	17
+4	25	13	62	27
+5	33	15	104	43
+6	42	17
+7	52	19
+8	63	21
+9	75	23
+10	88	25
+11	102	27

FFQ
Duo quanta cost +1 ~= Mono quanta cost

Turn	Unupped Total Damage	Unupped Total Cost	Upgraded Total Damage	Upgraded Total Cost
+0	3	7	3	7
+1	9	10	10	10
+2	18	12	21	12
+3	30	14	36	14
+4	45	16	55	16
+5	63	18	78	18
+6	84	20	105	20
+7	108	22

Although FFQ generates quanta and this adds creature hp.

All in all I think:
The unupped version is UP
The upgraded version is balanced vs FFQ. It takes more quanta (a lot more) but kills earlier. Playtesting would fine tune the casting cost.

[XYTWO]

Whoops. Forgot to mention that the ability can only be used once per ??? , but newly spawned ones have it. So basically, you got the unupped one right, but the upped works the same as the unupped. I do kind of like the idea of not self-loboing and maybe giving both +1 attack, though. Any other opinions on this?

[OldTrees]

So the Unupped has a +1|8 growth[+1.45 ] and the upgraded has a +2|8 growth[+2.45 ].

So cost
Unupped:3(attack)+1.45(+1|8 growth)-1(Activation cost 2-3 )=3
Upgraded:4(attack)+2.45(+2|8 growth)-1(Activation cost 2-3 )-1.5(upgrade)=4

3 |4 cost for single use skill

[XYTWO]

...actually, I was saying the stats could be 4|3 unupped and 5|3 upped.

Just BTW, if I went with death as this card's element, would Bone Beast be a good name?

[ZephyrPhantom]

...actually, I was saying the stats could be 4|3 unupped and 5|3 upped.

Just BTW, if I went with death as this card's element, would Bone Beast be a good name?

Possibly. "Necromancer" works for Death too.

For darkness, you could use "Swirling Shadow" or "Dividing Shade".

[OldTrees]

Bone Beast sounds like the best option.
It reconfigures its bones to free some bones to be combined with the addition to form a new Bone Beast.

...actually, I was saying the stats could be 4|3 unupped and 5|3 upped.

Just BTW, if I went with death as this card's element, would Bone Beast be a good name?

So the Unupped would be a +2|8 growth[+2.45 ] and the upgraded has a +3|8 growth[+3.45 ].

So cost
Unupped:4(attack)+2.45(+1|8 growth)-1(Activation cost 2-3 )=5
Upgraded:5(attack)+3.45(+2|8 growth)-1(Activation cost 2-3 )-1.5(upgrade)=6

5 |6 cost for single use skill