Dragon Seal of Secrets | Dragon Seal of Mysteries

[OdinVanguard]

NAME: Dragon Seal of Secrets ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 5 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target dargon gains skill: " : Move to target slot. Makes itself and adjacent allies invisible for 1 turn."	NAME: Dragon Seal of Mysteries ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 4 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target dargon gains skill: "1 : Move to target slot. Makes itself and adjacent allies invisible for 1 turn."

ART: Original Art link: http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=download&id=604442 Edited by OdinVanguard using GIMP IDEA: OdinVanguard NOTES: "Misdirection and secrets rule the day today." "'The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.' -Kint (a.k.a. Verbal), 'The Usual Suspects'. The devil has been know to take on the occasional pupil. Today is your day to lean." This one should be pretty self-explanatory. Do you really need any more notes on it?... SERIES: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,48038.0.html

[Zaealix]

one dragon, and the ability to bounce around and cloak itself and it's allies right?
Hrm...Dunno if it's worth the price tag as a stand-alone, but it's in a series, so I suppose I should look through those first.

[OdinVanguard]

one dragon, and the ability to bounce around and cloak itself and it's allies right?
Hrm...Dunno if it's worth the price tag as a stand-alone, but it's in a series, so I suppose I should look through those first.

Yes, essentially it lets you keep one dragon and an average of 2 allies invisible indefinitely with an upkeep cost of 1 (1 upped).

In a relatively densely packed field, the number of allies that can be protected goes up.

So what would be a reasonable price for the spell? (I am aiming at balancing these as if they were stand-alones first)

[Zaealix]

I feel like you very over costed the spell itself, considering the creature restriction and the fact that the ability requires a stream of quanta to maintain. Then again, the full impact of being 'cloaked' might not have been explored...
Still, I'd say a cost of around 5|4  should do the trick.

[OdinVanguard]

Sounds reasonable to me.

Updated with changes (cost now 5 :darknes and 4 , down from 8 and 7 )

Do the costs on the other seals made so far look ok?
(Dragon Seal of Freedom and Dragon Seal of Resilience)

[Anarook]

You target that dargon!
Target it good...

[andretimpa]

Sounds reasonable to me.

Updated with changes (cost now 5 :darknes and 4 , down from 8 and 7 )

Do the costs on the other seals made so far look ok?
(Dragon Seal of Freedom and Dragon Seal of Resilience)

At first I thought the Freedom one was expensive, but then I compared with your Wind Moth and I thought it compared well (excluding the cost of the dragon). I'm not sure about the resilience one. Maybe the fact that you need a dragon and that they are expensive already would warrant a reduction. (going back to your moths, you can play them all early in the game).

The aether seal will probably need to be cheaper, to account for the need of a duo to use it

[OdinVanguard]

Sounds reasonable to me.

Updated with changes (cost now 5 :darknes and 4 , down from 8 and 7 )

Do the costs on the other seals made so far look ok?
(Dragon Seal of Freedom and Dragon Seal of Resilience)

At first I thought the Freedom one was expensive, but then I compared with your Wind Moth and I thought it compared well (excluding the cost of the dragon). I'm not sure about the resilience one. Maybe the fact that you need a dragon and that they are expensive already would warrant a reduction. (going back to your moths, you can play them all early in the game).

The aether seal will probably need to be cheaper, to account for the need of a duo to use it

I can always allow the aether one to target immaterial creatures.
Actually, I've been debating allowing it for all dragon seals, since doing so would require either using the (very expensive) phase dragon, or using an ability to make a dragon immaterial...

I'm not sure if these would start to get OP that way though.

The defensive ones would probably be fine, but when I make the offense seals (probably fire and water, maybe aether and gravity as well), things could get ugly.