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Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195665#msg1195665
« on: July 05, 2015, 11:16:18 pm »
NAME:
Graeae
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2/3
TEXT:
:darkness Reveal the top card of your opponent's deck. If it's a creature, pay  :darkness :darkness :darkness to remove it. Remove Graeae.
NAME:
Elite Graeae
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
2 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3/4
TEXT:
:darkness Reveal the top card of your opponent's deck. If it's a creature, pay  :darkness :darkness to remove it. Remove Graeae.


ART:
nanchino (http://nanchino.deviantart.com/art/Graeae-295911451)
IDEA:
rockstar1723
NOTES:
Without being OP, brings another element of creature control with a little luck required.
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« Last Edit: July 05, 2015, 11:47:53 pm by rockstar1723 »
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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195668#msg1195668
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2015, 11:23:02 pm »
Please link where you get your art sources from the in ART box. Additionally, card art is meant to go into a card - please use the Card Image Builder to make your card image with the art in question, assuming that the art you have is free-to-use source.

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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195670#msg1195670
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2015, 11:34:35 pm »
Rebalance stats, a card with a useful ability like that should not be this cost-efficient in terms of stats. Ability is interesting, might be overpowered.

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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195672#msg1195672
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2015, 11:38:44 pm »
The ability is too wordy for the card.

I've reworded it so it fits:

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[1Darkness]: Reveal the top card of your opponent's deck. If it's a creature, pay [3Darkness] to remove it. Remove Graeae.
That said, this is indeed an interesting idea.
Good job.

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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195673#msg1195673
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2015, 11:42:26 pm »
Please link where you get your art sources from the in ART box. Additionally, card art is meant to go into a card - please use the Card Image Builder to make your card image with the art in question, assuming that the art you have is free-to-use source.

Fixed. Yes the art is public on Devian Art.

Rebalance stats, a card with a useful ability like that should not be this cost-efficient in terms of stats. Ability is interesting, might be overpowered.

The cost is not high because you can only use the skill a single time. It is almost a crap shoot. If the card is not a creature you just lose your Graeae. It is basically a one time use. However you may choose not to use the skill and allow it to remain on the field as a normal creature.

***Possible modification***
Instead of destroy, change skill to discard. This could be paired with GotP for damage. Still a single use skill.

I dont think it is OP with only a 1 time use. Just my opinion though.
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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195674#msg1195674
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2015, 11:48:49 pm »
The ability is too wordy for the card.

Fixed. Also Balanced slightly. Thanks for the writeup.
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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195675#msg1195675
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2015, 11:54:23 pm »
Please link where you get your art sources from the in ART box. Additionally, card art is meant to go into a card - please use the Card Image Builder to make your card image with the art in question, assuming that the art you have is free-to-use source.

Fixed. Yes the art is public on Devian Art.
Do you have proof that the artist's work is open-source, free to use, or that the artist has given you permission to use her work?

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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195676#msg1195676
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2015, 12:10:17 am »

Please link where you get your art sources from the in ART box. Additionally, card art is meant to go into a card - please use the Card Image Builder to make your card image with the art in question, assuming that the art you have is free-to-use source.

Fixed. Yes the art is public on Devian Art.
Do you have proof that the artist's work is open-source, free to use, or that the artist has given you permission to use her work?
The art is made via Photoshop. The artist has posted it as a free download and does not indicate any copy write anywhere. I have not personally talked to the artist but if were actually even possible to have a card made and put into the game I would ensure I had written permission and rights to the image prior to it going live. Since any further update to the game has the same chance as the dinosaurs coming back, it is just a free image download posted on a forum for entertainment.

Also if there were some type of copy write infringement, the image was used in the deck creator and is no longer the original. It has now been modified and changed. I am not a lawyer but I do not think creative use of a public image of a mythological creature is a problem.   
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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195677#msg1195677
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2015, 12:30:44 am »
Not to be "that guy" (sorry if I seem overly harsh), but even if it has no copyright statement printed on it, Deviantart will consider it copyrighted by default unless it's over 150 years old.
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Also do not confuse the fact that a work is publicly available with the idea that it is in the public domain or free for use. Being easy to find on the internet does not affect a work's copyrighted status.

There are many exceptions to the 150 year guideline, but you are best advised to obtain legal advice from an expert if you intend to rely on the possibility that a modern work is not copyrighted.

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I'll let the image stay up, but do be advised if gets entered into anything else (e.g. a Competition), it'd probably be in your best interest to submit it without the copyrighted art.

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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195678#msg1195678
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2015, 12:32:48 am »
I can take it down if you like. I will send the artist a request and see if there is a problem. At this time I have no intention of entering it into any competitions. I understand the concern. I may also work on something to replace it myself so there is no questions.
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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195681#msg1195681
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2015, 12:42:01 am »
This is why most people don't use art, btw.
This is definitely a tedious process and we're sorry for it.

Whilst we're at it, literally all art here is free to use.
OdinVanguard's collection is probably the most comprehensive/best list of stock.

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Re: Graeae | Elite Graeae https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58815.msg1195683#msg1195683
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This is why most people don't use art, btw.
This is definitely a tedious process and we're sorry for it.

Whilst we're at it, literally all art here is free to use.
OdinVanguard's collection is probably the most comprehensive/best list of stock.

Thanks. I will find something suitable and change it.
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