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Re: Nagaloshii the Ethereal | Nagaloshi the Ethereal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8438.msg97180#msg97180
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2010, 08:22:40 pm »
Just so you are aware. Named creatures are against the unwritten rules.
It should have nothing in the Title to make it personal.
The only exception to this in the game so far is the rare weapons.

So no to "Bob the Builder", but "Elvish Builder" is fine.
What if it's not personal, but just "is"?

...guess I'll change it.
If Nagaloshii isn't the name of the creature, why end it with "the Ethereal"?

If it is a special type of Shapeshifter why not "Ethereal Nagaloshii"?
Ethereal Naagloshii doesn't sound as cool.
Isn't this breaching copyright by what I can tell?
I don't think Jim Butcher has a copyright on skinwalkers, since they're a part of Native American folklore.

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Because in Native American lore, Skinwalkers aren't aligned either way, which means they could technically be 'good guys'. I didn't think the art really fit a 'good guy'.
I don't see why you can't name this Skinwalker | Elite Skinwalker.
I could....I'll have to think hard over what to name it.

Hmm...it seems that Skinwalkers are evil as well. I just assumed that since Injun Joe could shapeshift, he was a skinwalker. Maybe I shall take this suggestion.

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Re: Nagaloshii the Ethereal | Nagaloshi the Ethereal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8438.msg97190#msg97190
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2010, 08:33:29 pm »
...no, Injun Joe was not a skinwalker. "Skinwalker" is the literal meaning of the word "Naagloshii"; it is a spirit similar to a Fallen Angel (Denarian).
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

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Re: Nagaloshii the Ethereal | Nagaloshi the Ethereal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8438.msg97269#msg97269
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2010, 10:28:09 pm »
This card is seriously UP.... even upgraded you end up paying 6 :aether and 10 :entropy for a 10/1 creature, for 10 :entropy you're better off with a 10/5 amethyst dragon.

Of course you could buff him like with heavy armor and use that to add an extra 6 attack for the cost of another 6  :entropy but in nearly all cases I could imagine this would still end up costing way too much for its effect

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Re: Nagaloshii the Ethereal | Nagaloshi the Ethereal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8438.msg97352#msg97352
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2010, 12:49:56 am »
This card is seriously UP.... even upgraded you end up paying 6 :aether and 10 :entropy for a 10/1 creature, for 10 :entropy you're better off with a 10/5 amethyst dragon.

Of course you could buff him like with heavy armor and use that to add an extra 6 attack for the cost of another 6  :entropy but in nearly all cases I could imagine this would still end up costing way too much for its effect
What if you don't have a Amethyst Dragon? Or simply don't want to die to an Otyugh or Lightning Bolt or Fire Shield/Thorn Carapace?

This is more about possibilities, not "zomg in a vacuum there are cards better than this lolol !!1!". Yes, there are. You could say that about a lot of cards.

Put up a poll on what I should change the name to. Apparently I can't do that. So I'll just change it to Skinwalker | Elite Skinwalker like Bloodshadow suggested.

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Re: Nagaloshii the Ethereal | Nagaloshi the Ethereal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8438.msg97949#msg97949
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2010, 06:53:06 pm »
The upgraded version is too much of an upgrade. You can gain 10 attack with the upgraded version with only 10 :entropy and with the unupgraded version it takes twice as much quanta. Increase the cost of the card to fix it.

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Re: Nagaloshii the Ethereal | Nagaloshi the Ethereal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8438.msg97958#msg97958
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2010, 06:57:18 pm »
The problem is it requires  :aether and  :entropy to be effective, in both of these there are many cards which are by far more effective I seriously believe that you end up paying way too much for a worse creature...

Leave it as 0/11, it just occupies space and does nothing
Change it to 10/1 = 6 :aether 10 :entropy, amethyst dragon is the better choice here
Change it to 7/4 = 6 :aether + 7 :entropy you could just as well play a phase recluse and save 9 quanta

The unupgraded version is even worse off, it ends up paying the equivalent of 2 amethyst dragons and a twin universe to gain a single 10/1 creature

I think the card idea is nice, being able to vary your stats however you need it is a nice mechanic but the card is certainly UP and I suggest you make it a little bit stronger :D

I suggest decreasing its  cost to 5 :aether and letting it gain something like +2/-2 for 1 :entropy (unupgraded) and change the upped version to gaining +2/-2 but with 15 hp

This way for 10 quanta you end up having a maximum of 10/1 unupped and 14/1 upped which to me seems a fair price

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Re: Nagaloshii the Ethereal | Nagaloshi the Ethereal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8438.msg97971#msg97971
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2010, 07:02:59 pm »
I suggest decreasing its  cost to 5 :aether and letting it gain something like +2/-2 for 1 :entropy (unupgraded) and change the upped version to gaining +2/-2 but with 15 hp

This way for 10 quanta you end up having a maximum of 10/1 unupped and 14/1 upped which to me seems a fair price


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