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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1057314#msg1057314
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2013, 05:02:52 pm »
Is there room to add, "If Djinn dies return it to lamp instead."?

It does seem a bit needlessly complicated though, is there any reason to have it this way instead of the original?
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1057340#msg1057340
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2013, 06:02:58 pm »
I could use: "Guards nearby allies. If one of them dies, return it to hand and Djinn to lamp. If Djinn dies return it to lamp instead."

But, it requires removing the explanation of what happens if it gets played on its own instead of from a lamp.
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060326#msg1060326
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2013, 06:07:59 am »
Rough idea for the Djinn model itself:


I will have it coming out of the spout of the lamp I posted previously.
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060349#msg1060349
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2013, 07:19:09 am »
Thanks for the update, I always look forward to seeing the progress.

Must be a lot of work!

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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060357#msg1060357
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2013, 07:38:09 am »
Humanoids are some of the trickiest things to get right...
If I had a full version of DaZ studio to work with I could use one of the models as a jump point... of course that would require 100+ dollars... which I don't have. Lol.
Hopefully this will come out pretty well though.

Its almost done rendering. Anti-aliasing is taking a long time due to the smoke and fire effects. I will post in the morning when I get up... Till then I need a few hours of shut eye.

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still has one or two more passes plus anti-aliasing... should be done soon.
I will take it into GIMP for some finishing effect work as well.
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060461#msg1060461
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2013, 04:01:26 pm »
Here it is!


Just need to finish designing the card itself now.

If you want we can do it as a lamp and creature or we can just make it a standalone creature.
Which sounds better?
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060466#msg1060466
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2013, 04:08:53 pm »
Well, having it be a lamp and a creature avoids having it be immortal like my original version.  You can kill it by destroying the lamp.  And in your field version it allows you to move it around the field.  2 benefits.  On the downside it makes it more complex which may throw off some voters.

I was thinking we'd run with the complex version first, see if we can get it very far in the voting, and if that fails re-release it more like my original version.

Does that sound good to you?
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060468#msg1060468
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2013, 04:10:20 pm »
Sounds like a plan. Do you want to do the honors of the card post or shall I?
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060474#msg1060474
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2013, 04:16:10 pm »
I think you should take the lead on this version.  I'd go with the "Guards nearby allies. If one of them dies, return it to hand and Djinn to lamp. If Djinn dies return it to lamp instead." instead of detailing what happens if played from hand.
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060476#msg1060476
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2013, 04:22:05 pm »
I like the direction you took with the art.  The helping hand reaching out really suited the flavor of the card.  Also like how you managed to balance out the lamp, hand, and eyes.  Great work.
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060489#msg1060489
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2013, 05:26:43 pm »
Okay, here are the unupgraded versions of lamp and Djinn so you can have a look while I work on the topic post itself.

The upgraded versions are identical but have casting cost lowered by 1 :time quanta.

Let me know if you want any revisions. I'll get the post up sometime before lunch (my time) hopefully.
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Re: Djinn | Djinn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47957.msg1060497#msg1060497
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2013, 05:51:48 pm »
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