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Re: Discrimination| Racism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg89979#msg89979
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2010, 03:34:35 am »
Entropy's plot pack is going to be all about mutants.

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Re: Discrimination| Racism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg90110#msg90110
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2010, 08:00:03 am »
No not prejudice scape goat.  Just leave it at Racism, it's not offensive... Even just reading To Kill a Mockingbird is more offensive than this.

Prejudice is not the same. It means you have feelings against them that's just there and there's  no real reason why you dislike them. Racism is the belief that someone/something is inferior. IMO Racism fits better.

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Re: Discrimination| Racism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg90410#msg90410
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2010, 04:22:19 pm »
You guys seriously need to look up the definition of the word prejudice.


Definition 2c from merriam-webster.com:

 
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an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics
I just don't think a card named Racism is going to fit into the elements world/theme.

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Re: Discrimination| Racism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg90425#msg90425
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2010, 04:46:54 pm »
Still, I don't want to call it prejudice.

The concept of this card is more than that.  These's people don't just have an attitude of hostility, their actively shunning the mutants, and blaming them for all of the problems caused by the grim.  All of this will be explained when I release the next entropy card and get to make the actual series thread.

The point is, one side isn't just prejudice against the other.  They're actively trying to murder each other.  And while prejudice has a denotation that fits the card description, I've always thought it had a connotation of just being an attitude.  Nothing more.

I am prejudice against fat people when I assume they are lazy.  I am discriminatory towards fat people when I don't feed them.

I am prejudice against people from the fiction land of candy land when I assume they are delicious.  I am racist towards them when I call them "sugar-tits" and burn their houses down.

Maybe it's a small difference, but it's enough that I don't think that the term prejudice applies here.  While I'm happy to come up with a different card name than "racism", it probably won't be "prejudice".

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Re: Discrimination| Racism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg90430#msg90430
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2010, 04:49:52 pm »
i completely agree it makes racism seem less serious. an anyway ive got a cool idea that would work for this. I presume everyone here knows about evolution. You may also know it only occurs almost exclusively in times of ecological stress. I recently heard the reason for this is that sertain systems in the body crush deformed cells (copying errors) into the right shape (i dont what the system is or what its i made of ill have a look) this is turned off when a species is under threat(dont know how but i think it is kind of like this. If its too hot then A) animals sweat AND B) this system is deactivated) allowing more diversification in the species and therefore higher likelyhood of a favourable adaptation taking place. If you guys think this could fit then please change it.

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Re: Discrimination| Racism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg90463#msg90463
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2010, 05:23:45 pm »
This can definitely offend people. In a game based on fantasy, I don't see any reason to even dwell on topics of real-world politically shaky issues. Just change it to be more fantasy, less real. A card named "racism" with a picture of people with what could be construed as birth defects is definitely apt to offend people that have been hurt by racism or have been fighting to be accepted for who they are because of birth defects or the color of their skin. Really, why not just change it? Think of a way to phrase it so it doesn't strike these chords. I can't see this card being accepted into the game in its current form along with all the other cards that have nothing to do with politics, discrimination, etc.

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Re: Discrimination| Racism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg90627#msg90627
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2010, 09:10:45 pm »
There I changed it stop whining.

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Re: Discrimination| Exile https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg91073#msg91073
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2010, 05:45:50 am »
I think it should be a permanent and not a shield since it affects you both and shields are supposed to be helpful only to you

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Re: Discrimination| Exile https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg91337#msg91337
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2010, 04:38:59 pm »
 Well, it could be helpful to you, if you don't mutate your own stuff.

Besides, this plus another card in the pack called "Shaman|Healer" pretty much give you hatch on a stick, so you can hatch your stuff and mutate their stuff.

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Re: Discrimination| Exile https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg91367#msg91367
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2010, 05:01:38 pm »
whining? anyway it still has the same picture. did you not like my idea? and discrimination is just another word for racism/its too similar.
EDIT:i think this i what i heard about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_repair

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Rate of evolutionary change
On some occasions, DNA damage is not repaired, or is repaired by an error-prone mechanism which results in a change from the original sequence. When this occurs, mutations may propagate into the genomes of the cell's progeny. Should such an event occur in a germ line cell that will eventually produce a gamete, the mutation has the potential to be passed on to the organism's offspring. The rate of evolution in a particular species (or, more narrowly, in a particular gene) is a function of the rate of mutation. Consequently, the rate and accuracy of DNA repair mechanisms have an influence over the process of evolutionary change.


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Re: Discrimination| Exile https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg91733#msg91733
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2010, 10:20:16 pm »
whining? anyway it still has the same picture. did you not like my idea? and discrimination is just another word for racism/its too similar.
EDIT:i think this i what i heard about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_repair

specifically this

Rate of evolutionary change
On some occasions, DNA damage is not repaired, or is repaired by an error-prone mechanism which results in a change from the original sequence. When this occurs, mutations may propagate into the genomes of the cell's progeny. Should such an event occur in a germ line cell that will eventually produce a gamete, the mutation has the potential to be passed on to the organism's offspring. The rate of evolution in a particular species (or, more narrowly, in a particular gene) is a function of the rate of mutation. Consequently, the rate and accuracy of DNA repair mechanisms have an influence over the process of evolutionary change.
No please don't take out discrimination too. Discrimination is just a feeling of dislike against certain people. Little kids probably don't even know what it is.

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Re: Discrimination| Exile https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7980.msg92474#msg92474
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2010, 04:36:38 pm »
it doesnt matter about that idea anyway i saw gl1tch's series and my previous idea wont work, but i would like it more if it was ostracism/exile as that fits in with his story line as well-and there is a reason that little kids dont know what discrimination is, it is an ugly word and an uglier thing.

 

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