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Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097301#msg1097301
« on: September 15, 2013, 08:47:09 pm »
NAME:
Diffraction Grating
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Targeted damage dealt to a creature is distributed amongst all that player's creatures.
NAME:
Diffraction Grating
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Targeted damage dealt to a creature is distributed amongst all that player's creatures.

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
It's hard to describe the desired effect. Any spell or ability that deals damage to a target creature will have the damage distributed as evenly as possible to all of that player's creatures. For example, a lightning would damage 5 creatures for 1 hp each or more if the player has less than 5 creatures. Any spell or ability that doesn't deal direct damage will not be affected at all. Gravity pull would only damage one creature etc. Any help with better wording is appreciated. Probably needs a cost adjustment to be balanced.

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« Last Edit: September 18, 2013, 12:26:01 am by eljoemo »
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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097310#msg1097310
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2013, 09:43:32 pm »
Is it distributed evenly or just distributed?

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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097342#msg1097342
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 01:05:52 am »
Is it distributed evenly or just distributed?

Probably as evenly as it can be. What's the 'priority' of the spread? If it cannot be even, does it damage higher hp creatures more or lower hp creatures?
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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097349#msg1097349
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 02:07:02 am »
The distribution would be random. This would mean that large hp creatures are more likely take the most damage

I change the card mechanic to distribute as evenly as possible. The above statement is not true any more.
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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097453#msg1097453
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2013, 07:06:53 pm »
I think this card is a bit too situational. It doesn't help at all against AoE effects, so the only thing it helps against are Fire Bolt, Ice Bolt, Drain Life, Lighting, Shockwave...

But it might be fun with rage potions. You could even use them on a pegasus without the pegasus dying... well I still don't know how useful that would be...
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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097456#msg1097456
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2013, 07:12:32 pm »
Combined with a few cheap, high hp creatures, this could make your fragile creatures nearly invincible; I'm not sure I like that idea... a light dragon or two, or, in duos, something like massive dragon, flying titan, or... voodoo dolls, and things are going to get virtually impossible to kill.

As an example of something really sick you could do with this card... voodoo doll + gravity pull + this.  ALL your voodoo dolls would basically have gravity pull...

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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097458#msg1097458
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2013, 07:24:12 pm »
As an example of something really sick you could do with this card... voodoo doll + gravity pull + this.  ALL your voodoo dolls would basically have gravity pull...

"Targeted damage dealt to creature" ... "Any spell or ability that deals damage to a target creature" "Any spell or ability that doesn't deal direct damage will not be affected at all. Gravity pull would only damage one creature"

Creatures with 1 HP may still die, and Creatures with 2 HP may die as well, if, just saying, you have 2 light dragons 10/10 and one pegasus 3/2. If a thunderbolt is used, two creatures would get two damage and one creature would get one damage. so the chance of the pegasus dying after the first thunderbolt in this scenario is 66 %.
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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097503#msg1097503
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2013, 11:50:08 pm »
I think I might change the distribution to be as even a possible. This would stop the problem with huge hp creatures shielding smaller ones. By "even" I mean instead of dealing X damage to one creature, dealing 1 damage to X creatures if possible. With less creatures than X some would receive damage twice. So a lightning would deal 1 damage each to 5 random creatures regardless of HP. With only four creatures on the field it would be 2,1,1,1 damage to the creatures. 3 creatures would take 2,2,1 in any order etc. What do people think??
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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097507#msg1097507
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2013, 11:55:49 pm »
Having it distribute 1 to each creature and offload the rest on the target is a good option. Would it redistribute each bolt of a Fire Bolt? Otherwise have it be completely random, by splitting X damage into X 1 damage strikes

Random idea with my latter point: have upped effect include opponent's creatures in diffraction. Don't know what cost it should have then

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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1097518#msg1097518
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2013, 12:11:33 am »
Having it distribute 1 to each creature and offload the rest on the target is a good option. Would it redistribute each bolt of a Fire Bolt? Otherwise have it be completely random, by splitting X damage into X 1 damage strikes

Random idea with my latter point: have upped effect include opponent's creatures in diffraction. Don't know what cost it should have then

Your second suggestion was more what I was thinking as more of a distribution. If the number of 1 damage strikes is more than the number of creatures then some creatures will be hit twice. Equally if there are more creatures, some will remain unharmed. Personally I do not like the first suggestion all that much.

Regarding the upped it has the same ability just at a cheaper cost. This would allow for this card to work somewhat offensively e.g. you have close to 75 fire quanta and 1 fire bolt and 1 grating in your hand, you could kill one creature with the bolt OR play the grating and kill several, depending on the creatures' HPs
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Re: Diffraction Grating | Diffraction Grating https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51174.msg1098433#msg1098433
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2013, 03:13:40 pm »
does anyone have any issues about the cost (usually i get this wrong a lot)?
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