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Destiny restraint | Destiny control https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53756.msg1126095#msg1126095
« on: February 14, 2014, 01:52:13 pm »
NAME:
Destiny restraint
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
4 :time
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Every player respective quanta cap is reduced by the amount of his/her own matching quanta used.
NAME:
Destiny control
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
3 :time
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Your opponent quanta cap is reduced by the amount of his/her own matching quanta used.

ART:
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IDEA:
the actual idea came from the http://elementscommunity.org/forum/card-ideas-and-art/field-of-emptiness-expanding-emptiness and something what I planned for long.
NOTES:
Pillars not increase the cap.
Everything counts as quanta usage, when your card uses quanta from your pool.
Sanctuary does not blocks this.

SERIES:
False Gods never die.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2014, 05:55:38 pm by Zergva »

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Re: Destiny restraint | Destiny control https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53756.msg1126097#msg1126097
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2014, 02:10:53 pm »
currently, no spell is permanent,
unless they alter something permanent (hp, attack...).
Thus, I'd suggest changing this to a permanent.
By how much does the cap get reduced? 1?

I don't think I'd often use this;
there are not a lot of decks that require a lot of a single quanta at one time,
while also playing a lot of that element's cards before that time.
Plus the cost is quite high.

does SoSac count as using quanta from your non- :death pools?
be quick- time is quanta.

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Re: Destiny restraint | Destiny control https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53756.msg1126098#msg1126098
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2014, 02:24:47 pm »
currently, no spell is permanent,
unless they alter something permanent (hp, attack...).

It's alters the cap permanently, not for 3 turns. Just the effect of reducing your cap with quanta use is for 3 turns.

Thus, I'd suggest changing this to a permanent.
By how much does the cap get reduced? 1?

It's reduces by the amount of quanta used.

I don't think I'd often use this;
there are not a lot of decks that require a lot of a single quanta at one time,
while also playing a lot of that element's cards before that time.
Plus the cost is quite high.

As like S. cat, Antimatter, Fractal...  And if it was easy to lock up your opponent, it will be OP.

does SoSac count as using quanta from your non- :death pools?
Fractal, Miracle and SoSac yes.


« Last Edit: February 14, 2014, 02:44:19 pm by Zergva »

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Re: Destiny restraint | Destiny control https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53756.msg1126109#msg1126109
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2014, 03:50:54 pm »
It's alters the cap permanently, not for 3 turns. Just the effect of reducing your cap with quanta use is for 3 turns.
while it is fine to reduce the cap permanently,
how long does the effect that causes the cap to be reduced last?
thats right, also permanently.
thus, this will require a symbol alike silence/nova/sanctuary
which all last a limited time (or are a permanent).

As like S. cat, Antimatter, Fractal...  And if it was easy to lock up your opponent, it will be OP.
This is not comparable to cats, antimatter, or fractal:
cats and fractal do not counter the opponent's strategy, they are based on your own.
antimatter does counter the opponent's strategy, but it counters a wide variety of strategies.

this is more comparable to flooding, which basically counters creature spams.
be quick- time is quanta.

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Re: Destiny restraint | Destiny control https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53756.msg1126178#msg1126178
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2014, 03:37:51 am »
Interesting idea, but as stated before it is really expensive considering the effect and that it only lasts 3 turns. perhaps make it like a neurotoxin for your quanta pools, each card that is played reduces the cap for quanta pool used by 5 (or some other value). Glad that my idea inspired you.

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Re: Destiny restraint | Destiny control https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53756.msg1126239#msg1126239
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2014, 06:05:39 pm »
Changed to permanent, wording changed too (but I still think it's not the best wording on it :/ ).

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perhaps make it like a neurotoxin for your quanta pools, each card that is played reduces the cap for quanta pool used by 5 (or some other value)

Actually, I fear that it'll become a cruel FG grinder card (as like every FG plays 1-2 pillar per turn, so will be locked up too easily).

 

anything
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