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Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482653#msg482653
« on: April 17, 2012, 03:17:30 pm »
I think aether and entropy would make a good pair but surprisingly there is no Aether+Entropy cards yet. That's why I decided to make one:
Entropy mirror that uses aether to give life to its images.

NAME:
Twisted Mirror
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
TEXT:
:aether :aether :aether :aether Reflect:
Copy the target creature. The reflection may be a little... twisted....
NAME:
Warped Mirror
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
TEXT:
:aether :aether :aether :aether  Reflect:
Copy the target creature. The reflection may be a little... twisted....

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
Unupgraded card has 15% change to create an exact copy of the target while 55% of the copies will be poisoned, given halved attack and hp(rounded down, minium is 1) or their attack and hp are negative (Meaning they will heal the enemy and die immediately). 25% will be randomly given new skill/no skill and 4% of the copies will be adrenalined, momentumed or immaterial. 1% change to create a singularity instead.
Upgraded mirror has 15% change to create an exact copy and 50% change to create a poisoned, halved attack & hp or "negative stats" copies. 30% will be given new skill/no skill and 4% of the copies will be adrenalined, momentumed or immaterial. 1% change to create a singularity instead.
All the reflections will die if the mirror is destroyed. Reflecitons will also die if targetted by anything. (Even blessing will kill them)
« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 05:04:08 am by Sinolai »

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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482656#msg482656
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 03:32:50 pm »
Multiples of this card on the field would be a nightmare. An over 50% chance to do something for half(or less the half) the cost of TU(PU) seems unrealistic. Nobody would be afraid to use this even with the possible side effects (especially when you can create so many copies of opponents' creatures without having a creature to your name).

Interesting thought though. Interesting card.
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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482668#msg482668
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 03:53:37 pm »
Well if you think it is unbalanced the skill cost and %-for different copies can be thought again... Possibly most of the cards should be "imperfect" copies?
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 03:57:36 pm by Sinolai »

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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482669#msg482669
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 03:59:25 pm »
Yeah its a cool idea, but a bit too powerful.  Maybe limit it to only be used on opponents creatures?  That makes it still powerful, but it makes including it in your deck in the first place a little more of a risk.  I'm trying to think of a way to balance the effect itself, but can't think how without treading on mutation turf.  Maybe make the creatures tied to the mirror, so if its destroyed all of its reflections are as well?
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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482672#msg482672
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 04:04:19 pm »
The reflections will die if the mirror is destroyed. That is said in the notes box. :)

I think I'll rise the skill cost for both of them by 1 and change the %- a bit. I don't have time to do that now but when I find some time I'll do it.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 04:06:17 pm by Sinolai »

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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482679#msg482679
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 04:11:58 pm »
To facilitate the linkage between the reflections and the mirror within the card text, maybe you should reword it into something along the lines of "Sustain a copy..."

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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482680#msg482680
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 04:13:37 pm »
Maybe it could generate singularities sometimes? (to balance it)
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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482691#msg482691
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2012, 04:25:42 pm »
This overshadows parallel universe a bit to much right now. It costs less, and is reusable... I think there is potential, and the concept is pretty fun, but it definitely needs balancing work.
Maybe it should target a creature at random, rather than allow specific targeting.
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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482709#msg482709
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 05:01:54 pm »
Okay, I modiefied the card a bit. (The picture seems to have lost... well it wasn't very good anyways...)
Most of the copies are now affected by different statuses and are easier to kill. Skill cost is now also  :aether :aether :aether :aether. Over half of the cost of parallel universe.
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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482714#msg482714
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2012, 05:09:46 pm »
That seems quite a bit better. Could be quite amusing to play with... I think causing the mutation effect should be an option as well. It essentially becomes a twisted xerox that mostly afflicts copies with chaos seed, but sometimes gives a powerful buff instead.
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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482752#msg482752
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2012, 07:30:18 pm »
I think that "wrong skill/no skill" could be thought as mutation since it can give some weird and useful skills for the reflection creatures although their hp and attack will stay same as the originals. Perhaps I could put it a bit more clearly. It is now "new skill".
Chance to get this should perhaps be improved since if I calculated it right, it is only 7.5% (First 60%, then 25% and then 50% of those...)
I modified the mirrors a bit.

I switched "delayed for 3 turns" to "creature with halved attack & hp" since I think it would fit better for the concept. Also buffed the upgraded mirror a bit.

Singularities were actually nice idea. I added them too. :)
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Re: Twisted Mirror l Warped Mirror https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38793.msg482761#msg482761
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2012, 07:52:41 pm »
Nice. This definitely looks much more distinct, both from Parallel universe and mutation and chaos seed. Should be fun.
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