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Elements the Game => Card Ideas and Art => Topic started by: Nepycros on October 29, 2010, 08:37:25 pm

Title: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Nepycros on October 29, 2010, 08:37:25 pm
NAME:
Dark Poet
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
8 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|6
TEXT:
:death :death :death Red Death: The target creature gains 2 poison counters and gains Immaterial. Dark Poet's skill then changes to Raven./ :darkness :darkness :darkness Raven: Generate a Raven. Dark Poet's skill then changes to Red Death
NAME:
Cursed Poet
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
8 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|6
TEXT:
:death :death Red Death: The target creature gains 2 poison counters and gains Immaterial. Cursed Poet's skill then changes to Raven./ :darkness :darkness Raven: Generate a Raven. Cursed Poet's skill then changes to Red Death
ART:
*
IDEA:
Nepycros
NOTES:
*
SERIES:
*
NAME:
Raven
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|1
TEXT:
:death :death Nevermore: If Raven is destroyed, generate a new Raven, which gains +1|+1
NAME:
Raven
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
3 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|1
TEXT:
:death Nevermore: If Raven is destroyed, generate a new Raven, which gains +1|+1
ART:
*
IDEA:
Nepycros
NOTES:
*
SERIES:
*
Title: Re: E. A. Poe | E. A. Poe
Post by: Celidion on October 29, 2010, 08:40:08 pm
I like it, but I don't, not really digging the whole trio-element on it.
Title: Re: E. A. Poe | E. A. Poe
Post by: Nepycros on October 29, 2010, 08:42:18 pm
Hmm... You're right. It needs a way to work in mono or duo as well as trio. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: E. A. Poe | E. A. Poe
Post by: genraenera on October 29, 2010, 08:44:18 pm
Simply put, this is too complicated.  Multiple skills on 1 card is clunky.
Title: Re: E. A. Poe | E. A. Poe
Post by: Nepycros on October 29, 2010, 08:51:47 pm
Always open to suggestions. I just feel like Mask of the Red Death and The Raven deserve a spot in my favorite poet's power.
Title: Re: E. A. Poe | E. A. Poe
Post by: hrmmm on October 29, 2010, 08:59:59 pm
i catched your card on the chat. as a fan of Poe:

maybe you just go for a Raven card ( :darkness or  :death )
i like the idea of:
Raven ability: nevermore -- if raven is destroyed, it generates another raven (nevermore!)

maybe Raven = 3/1 darkness creature for 3  :darkness
nevermore needs 2 :death
Title: Re: E. A. Poe | E. A. Poe
Post by: Ekki on October 29, 2010, 09:04:52 pm
I think you should make a "Raven" card... It'd make it easier for us to throw some ideas in...
The fact of being complicated doesn't make it impossible, so I like the duo-skill idea ;D
Title: Re: E. A. Poe | E. A. Poe
Post by: Krahhl on October 29, 2010, 09:06:38 pm
Make it two cards, one with the skill red death and one with raven. They turn into each other when you use their skill.
Title: Re: E. A. Poe | E. A. Poe
Post by: AnonymousRevival on October 30, 2010, 08:59:10 am
Try not to make the skill based on two elements or more.
Title: Re: E. A. Poe | E. A. Poe
Post by: Nepycros on October 30, 2010, 04:41:11 pm
Changed him to Darkness, so he's now a duo-creature.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Krahhl on October 30, 2010, 04:49:19 pm
He still can't have two skills though.
Quote from: Krahhl on October 29, 2010, 09:06:38 pm
Make it two cards, one with the skill red death and one with raven. They turn into each other when you use their skill.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Nepycros on October 30, 2010, 04:55:03 pm
His skill changes. Skill 1's side effect makes it change to skill 2, and skill 2's side effect changes it to skill one. At the time, he only has one skill.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Krahhl on October 30, 2010, 05:09:50 pm
That's still having two skills. I don't think the game mechanics can work like that.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Nepycros on October 30, 2010, 05:12:04 pm
It only has one active ability. His skill gives him a new ability, and the new ability's skill gives him his old ability.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Krahhl on October 30, 2010, 05:26:07 pm
Sure.. I just don't like the idea of an ability that changes the creature's ability.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Nepycros on October 30, 2010, 05:54:17 pm
Butterfly Effect changes a creature's ability, so this is a codeable ability.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Krahhl on October 30, 2010, 05:56:34 pm
But butterfly effect isn't an ability. And I don't mean an ability that targets another creature, but an ability that directly changes when used.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Nepycros on October 30, 2010, 05:57:49 pm
Is there something wrong with that. Compare that with just about any other ability, and you'll see it's just another unique mechanic.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Krahhl on October 30, 2010, 06:04:04 pm
There's a difference between unique and nonexistent.

But whatever. We'll see what other people have to say.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Uppercut on October 30, 2010, 06:42:45 pm
So this 1 card generates unlimited beaters that are hard to deal with? One of the best control finishers ever?
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Krahhl on October 30, 2010, 07:05:52 pm
Well my understanding is that the ravens need to use the skill, which gives them a status, and only then would they regenerate when killed. Due to summoning sickness, they would have to be vulnerable for at least one turn. It still seems a bit overpowered, but should be somewhat balanced by high quanta costs.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Ekki on October 30, 2010, 08:14:22 pm
Quote from: Krahhl on October 30, 2010, 07:05:52 pm
Well my understanding is that the ravens need to use the skill, which gives them a status, and only then would they regenerate when killed. Due to summoning sickness, they would have to be vulnerable for at least one turn. It still seems a bit overpowered, but should be somewhat balanced by high quanta costs.
I guess it's VERY overpowered... Maybe if the Dark Poet dies, every raven dies, or something like that...

Quote from: Nepycros on October 30, 2010, 05:54:17 pm
Butterfly Effect changes a creature's ability, so this is a codeable ability.
True... Technically it'd be 2 cards that switch between each other, but you'd see as if it's only one changing skills, so I guess it's codeable... Maybe the fact of a new ability mechanics (which is basically the combinated use of the previous mechanics) would be the problem, but the card is still factible
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Nepycros on October 30, 2010, 09:18:52 pm
You can lobotomize the 'Nevermore' status.
Title: Re: Dark Poet | Cursed Poet
Post by: Nepycros on March 26, 2011, 10:28:23 pm
TT_TT Sorry, but this thread's coming back, for a little while. I want to at least get this into Crucible, but I'm gonna need some help. This isn't a bump, this is me starting over without making a new thread.
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