Dark Cavern/Depths

[ivalmian]

This is a second pair of cards from my set of permanents that make creatures:

The first one is for light and is the light source/coherent source found here:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2957.new.html

For this one, you pay a relatively high summoning cost (7) but then you get to churn out a lot of creatures. Which creature is random, and for some of them you'll overpaying or may be they will be unneeded. However, some  will  be dragons!

(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/view/m7Gbd45493/dark_depths)

(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/view/m7Gbd45494/dark_cavern)

PS: The more I look at the card picture.. the less I like it.. would someone be willing to help get a better picture?

[kilava]

With dark do you mean darkness + death or just darkness?

[ivalmian]

With dark do you mean darkness + death or just darkness?

just darkness

[icybraker]

Nice. It seems almost perfectly balanced - a very expensive starting cost but a profitable net generating cost. I'm envisioning a deck with 6 of this, several Eclipses, maybe some Steals and Drain Lifes. Niiice.

[ScytherLoL]

Man you're trumping all today with these amazing cards, congrats and keep it up.

Great ability and good cost as well. A balanced addition to a Dark deck and with these in all I need are Devourers I would never have to put any other creature into my deck. Hmm good idea.

Note: By balanced I do not mean that the cards cost is balanced just that it fits within the genre of darkness.

Thanks

Scyther

[kilava]

I like the basic idea with permanents giving creatures of its own element but its to cheap, its 7 quantum which for many things are fairly expensive but since darkness have pest that also gives darkness quanta it wont be hard to get enough quanta, make it 10-12 instead. It can off course be destroyed but at 7 quanta it just need to last for 1-3 rounds to pay for itself.

[Glitch]

OP.

Right off the bat.

It breaks one of the fundamental rules in the game, only 6 of each creature in a deck.  12 with PUs.  You can just sit there an spawn things all game.  I mean, imagine a field full of devourers?

Suddenly you don't have to upgrade every card to have a fully upgraded dark deck.  Just 6 devourers, six of these, some steals, some drain lifes, some nightfalls, and pillars.  Dropping six creatures a turn?!  And upgraded!  WAYYYY OP.

Not to mention that on the off chance you get a creature you don't like, you have an infinite supply of parasites to kill them off.  Sorry kid, that's just crazy.

[ivalmian]

OP.

Right off the bat.

It breaks one of the fundamental rules in the game, only 6 of each creature in a deck.  12 with PUs.  You can just sit there an spawn things all game.  I mean, imagine a field full of devourers?

Suddenly you don't have to upgrade every card to have a fully upgraded dark deck.  Just 6 devourers, six of these, some steals, some drain lifes, some nightfalls, and pillars.  Dropping six creatures a turn?!  And upgraded!  WAYYYY OP.

Not to mention that on the off chance you get a creature you don't like, you have an infinite supply of parasites to kill them off.  Sorry kid, that's just crazy.

hm.. i guess i could increase the price to 10 summoning and 5 per creature...

[Glitch]

For the upgrade.  That miiiight rebalance the cost, but the concept is still way OP.

[teffy]

Hmmm balanced?

There are only 4 darkness creatures.
The chance of a devourer is 25%.
The chance of a pillar about 33% for the opponent.
If some devs are on the field, the 7 darkness are nothing.
And the devs drain much quanta.
The 6 devs darkness can have drain enough quanta now from Mono-decks
That card is even better than FFQ, helps to generate quanta for further using of the ability, self healing, damage and drain quanta.

And it has an average damage/quanta use ratio of ((10+2+1+0)/4) / 3 =  ca 1.
Thats not really bad.


But I kind of like the idea.

[ScytherLoL]

OK so just to clarify this would do the same thing as Malignent Cell, Boneyard and Graveyard and basically spawn out creatures so would bypass the 6 of any kind in a deck, in long thinking on it I would have to say that now I agree I first took it to be good but I think summoning a Dragon for 3 could be a little OP.

ANyway I still like the card.

Thanks

Scyther

[ivalmian]

how about if it summons both death and darkness..  then you will have death creatures (including weak ones like virus/vulture/skellie) appear as well? again, summon cost might be 7 but call creature like 4..

Thanks for the suggestions Gl1tch, teffy, scyth, and all else !