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Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247722#msg1247722
« on: October 02, 2016, 11:44:37 pm »
NAME:
Culling of the Weak
ELEMENT:
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COST:
1 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Sacrifice your lowest ATK creature. Its ATK and HPs are transfered to your highest ATK creature. Draw a card.
NAME:
Asthenicide
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
2 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Sacrifice your 3 lowest ATK creatures. Their ATK and HPs are transfered to your highest ATK creature. Draw a card.

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"Today, the old must give way to the new."

"So too, the weak shall be culled for the glory of the strong!"

Should be fairly straight forward. It gives the death element a much needed in-element sacrifice effect.
Should combo very well with boneyards, etc.

... yes I know, 'Asthenicide' isn't in the dictionary... but there isn't a word for systematic sacrifice of the infirmed / weak. So I made the word up from "Astheneia", the Greek word for weak, and added the suffix "-cide", the Greek suffix for "killing"... I think the Oxford and Merriam Webster dictionaries would approve...
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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247724#msg1247724
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2016, 11:48:09 pm »
I have 5 skeletons and a 1|2 vulture. What happens when the card is played?
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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247726#msg1247726
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2016, 12:31:38 am »
Considering it costs Precognition 1 quanta to draw a card, it's going to be very unbalanced to have every other element having a card that draws 1 at the same cost, then doing something powerful as a free bonus.

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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247727#msg1247727
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2016, 12:46:50 am »
So, bump costs so they are higher than precog?
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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247729#msg1247729
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2016, 01:06:29 am »
If I have 3 or less creatures and play Asthenicide does anything survive?
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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247740#msg1247740
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2016, 03:26:40 am »
If I have 3 or less creatures and play Asthenicide does anything survive?
In keeping with the theme, I would say, Only the Strongest Survives! ;)
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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247754#msg1247754
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2016, 08:43:29 am »
Maybe the wording should say, "Sacrifice up to 3 of your lowest attack creatures..." as if you have 3 creatures of equal attack, then all 3 are sacrificed, and added to your strongest 0|0 creature, or maybe they just all die, since the stats are added to nothing. The "up to" part means that you can sacrifice 2 creatures instead, allowing one creature to survive and receive the stats.

On a side note, since this is about culling the weak, are we going with the idea of low damage creatures, who are unable to provide much to the team, or should we go with current health, as the creature is "weak" as they are in poor health and are unable to pull their load.

On an even further side note, how would this interact with Antimatter, since the negative would subtract form the total attack boost added.
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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247761#msg1247761
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2016, 12:11:44 pm »
So, bump costs so they are higher than precog?

I think the card is strong enough without the draw part.

Best combos I can think of are BW and PU.
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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247933#msg1247933
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2016, 12:43:51 pm »
A good skelly buff I suppose...
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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247935#msg1247935
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2016, 12:53:31 pm »
A good skelly buff I suppose...

It's more than that. It triggers 3 death effects for 2 in element quanta, then draws a card. That's very significant, overpowered. The attack transfer is just icing on top of the cake.

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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247940#msg1247940
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2016, 01:11:58 pm »
A good skelly buff I suppose...

It's more than that. It triggers 3 death effects for 2 in element quanta, then draws a card. That's very significant, overpowered. The attack transfer is just icing on top of the cake.

I wouldn't call it OP. You need at least 2 creatures unupped and 4 creatures upped in order to benefit from the buff. Other than that, it is more like virus|retrovirus & precognition in power level. Personally, the only broken case I think of is the sacrifice of antimattered creatures.
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Re: Culling of the Weak | Asthenicide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63248.msg1247941#msg1247941
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2016, 01:18:47 pm »
It should cost a minimum of 2 to draw, imo, then have costing for other effects. Probably 2 per death effect triggered, then attack transfer at no quanta cost as paid for in creature loss.

That makes 4/8. The upgraded card could probably drop due to being upgraded, so 4/6 is better (though maybe not perfectly) balanced than 1/2.

 

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