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Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439670#msg439670
« on: December 17, 2011, 05:14:07 pm »
NAME:
Crystal Golem
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 3
TEXT:
:earth :earth :earth : Crush
Destroy the target permanent

Reflective

NAME:
Diamond Golem
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 5
TEXT:
:earth :earth :earth : Crush
Destroy the target permanent

Reflective
ART:
etg
IDEA:
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NOTES:
provides :earth :light synergy
extends earth's PC abilities (eq/pulvy), to :light, cost equiv to destroy from butterfly effect
*alternatively could change it to deal 3 damage to target creature or something, open to other suggestions.

reflective- new passive, new version: spells/skills/effects used by players/creature/permanents effect the golem, but are also reflected.
examples:
firebolt cast by a player on the golem, that player takes the same damage.
reverse time cast by a player on the golem, one of the players creatures is reverse timed
reverse time cast by an eternity on the golem, that eternity is removed and put in its owners hand
rain of fire is cast on the golem, rain of fire is cast on the creatures of the player casting rain of fire on the golem.
owls eye shoots the golem, the player using owls eye takes 3 damage
flying owls eye shoots the golem, the owls eye takes 3 damage
oty eats golem, oty eats itself too *poof*
virus poisons golem, golem poisons something that just died, ie no effect
retrovirus plagues golem, reflect plagues the retrovirus' field

or...
SERIES:
NAME:
Crystal Golem
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 4
TEXT:
Reflective:
Spells, skills or abilities used on this creature will also be reflected

NAME:
Diamond Golem
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 6
TEXT:
Reflective:
Spells, skills or abilities used on this creature will also be reflected
ART:
etg
IDEA:
moomoose
NOTES:
version without an active ability

mono card, missing the mark a bit.
SERIES:
NAME:
Crystal Golem
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 4
TEXT:
:earth : Growth
Crystal Golem gains +2|+2

Reflective
NAME:
Diamond Golem
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 6
TEXT:
:earth : Growth
Diamond Golem gains +2|+2

Reflective
ART:
etg
IDEA:
moomoose
NOTES:
similar to lava golem, but slightly sturdier, lower atk, and introducing the reflective passive ability.

the reflective passive ability will reflect spells (and only spells) targeted at the golem back to the user or one of their creatures, depending on the spells mechanics.
SERIES:
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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439672#msg439672
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 05:19:09 pm »
I like the idea of a reflective creature but:

Another growing creature? Really...?
Hematite/Steel Golem with a different colour? Really...?

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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439673#msg439673
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 05:21:02 pm »
if you can draw better art, please do. the extent of my artistic ability on a computer is pretty much limited to editing existing pieces, aside from a few attempts at art cards such as guinea pig or dodo.  these two golems looked more crystalline when their hue was changed than lava golem did, and public domain doesnt have a ton of rock golems available.

if you can think of a reason light shouldnt have one, let me know.  it makes sense thematically for crystals and diamonds to be linked to both :light and :earth, golems have at least 1 existing link to growth, with :earth as the growth element, and this provides a new link between :light and :earth.

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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439679#msg439679
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2011, 05:42:38 pm »
seems too powerful, compared to lava golem.  -1atk, but +hp, and +resistance to spells.

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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439680#msg439680
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2011, 05:44:03 pm »
could reduce further the atk|hp, to say 3|3 and 5|5 respectively
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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439682#msg439682
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2011, 05:50:41 pm »
this is a growing creature with built-in near immortality
am I the only one who thinks this is OP?

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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439683#msg439683
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2011, 05:51:51 pm »
only spells are reflected, creatures and permanents with cc abilities still can have their way with it.

also the reflective ability prevents it's owner from casting spells on it, as well.


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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439684#msg439684
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2011, 05:57:25 pm »
also the reflective ability prevents it's owner from casting spells on it, as well.
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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439689#msg439689
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2011, 06:09:53 pm »
Seeing that this card functions similarly to both Forest Spirit (balanced 1/1 at 2 :life ) and Lava Golem (attack-based 5/1 at 5 :fire ), I would see this card being the health-based of the group, having stats (unupped) closer to 2/4 with a cost of 3 or 4 :light.  The upgraded version could look something like 3/6 at 4 :light.  I don't want this card starting with so much attack power because of it's ability to reflect spells; it would then become OP if it did.

Would something like Eternity/Reverse Time, Owl's Eye, and Plague still hit the Golem?

Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439691#msg439691
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 06:12:38 pm »
only spells are reflected, creatures and permanents with cc abilities still can have their way with it.

also the reflective ability prevents it's owner from casting spells on it, as well.


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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439693#msg439693
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2011, 06:15:29 pm »
I think this is an interesting idea - it's a good midhitter for Light that works better an a mono than a Pegasus or Crusader would (Sort of like a Forest Spirit and Immortal mix). However, Duo-growth, high health, and reflective also combine to make a pretty durable creature (Contrast Lava Golem and Forest Spirit that both start out pretty fragile), so I'd suggest +1 to the cost or -1 to the attack.

Does Reflective deflect AoE spells (Pandemonium, RoF, Thunderstorm) too?

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Re: Crystal Golem | Diamond Golem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34880.msg439694#msg439694
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2011, 06:16:32 pm »

 

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