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Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343256#msg343256
« on: May 30, 2011, 04:01:49 pm »
NAME:
Crumbling Shrine
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
1
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Generates 2 quanta matching your mark for 3 turns.
:earth : Reinforce
Lasts an extra turn.
NAME:
Crumbling Temple
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
2
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Generates 2 quanta matching your mark for 4 turns.
:earth : Reinforce
Lasts an extra turn.
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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343268#msg343268
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 04:12:45 pm »
I like the reinforce mechanic.
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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343271#msg343271
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 04:18:22 pm »
I like the idea but it seems too powerful with mono  :earth, I stack some of these alongside Towers and boom i have enough quanta to do what I need.
although it can be justified to being useless with PA unless you were that serious on initial quanta production.

question:

What happens if I steal it? does it reset its countdown?


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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343272#msg343272
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 04:18:43 pm »
It may be a little UP. You're using 1 quanta to gain 3 extra quanta, as it effectively has a net gain over a pillar of 2 quanta. I think it's a bit UP.
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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343273#msg343273
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 04:20:09 pm »
I like the idea but it seems too powerful with mono  :earth, I stack some of these alongside Towers and boom i have enough quanta to do what I need.
although it can be justified to being useless with PA unless you were that serious on initial quanta production.

question:

What happens if I steal it? does it reset its countdown?
Why would it reset its countdown? Dim. Shield doesn't. If anything, stealing this should take 1 off the countdown, giving whoever stole it less time to utilize it (the thematic way)
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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343282#msg343282
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 04:28:42 pm »
I like the idea but it seems too powerful with mono  :earth, I stack some of these alongside Towers and boom i have enough quanta to do what I need.
although it can be justified to being useless with PA unless you were that serious on initial quanta production.
@Flayne: This-
It may be a little UP. You're using 1 quanta to gain 3 extra quanta, as it effectively has a net gain over a pillar of 2 quanta. I think it's a bit UP.
Also note that it's not a zero-cost card and you can only have 6 in a deck.
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Stealing works just like stealing dimshield, wings, or sundial.

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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343290#msg343290
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 04:43:56 pm »
Well balanced at the reinforce stage. (1 pillar + 1 shrine = 2 marks)
The initial 3|4 turns may or may not be balanced.
Comparison to pillar tower (turn:delta quanta)
1: -1|-3
2: 0|-2
3: 1|-1
4: 1|0
5: 1|0
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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343354#msg343354
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 06:26:27 pm »
The upped should also cost 1, it's only saving you :earth once and that's in the future (worth less than now).

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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343362#msg343362
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 06:38:29 pm »
The upped should also cost 1, it's only saving you :earth once and that's in the future (worth less than now).
+1 to this. Also, I'd up the turns by 1. That way it's worthwhile in rushes.
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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343758#msg343758
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011, 07:07:06 am »
pillar total123456
shrine total135678
pillar total234567
temple total024678

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Re: Crumbling Shrine | Crumbling Temple https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27008.msg343770#msg343770
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2011, 07:34:18 am »
pillar total123456
shrine total135678
pillar total234567
temple total024678
I am not sure if End of turn or beginning of turn is a better value to judge the first turn.
The above table uses end of turn which hides the fact that it cannot be played first turn unless 1+ towers have been played.
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