Crumbling Pillar|Crumbling Tower

[EvilDeathX]

NAME: Crumbling Pillar ELEMENT: COST: 0 TYPE: ATK|HP: TEXT: Generate 1 random quantum. 1 Crumble:  Generate 4 quanta of your mark.	NAME: Crumbling Tower ELEMENT: COST: 0 TYPE: ATK|HP: TEXT: Generate 2 Random quanta. 0 Crumble:  Generate 6 quanta of your mark. Can Crumble immediately.

ART: N/A IDEA: EvilDeathX NOTES: This card is not treated as a pillar, meaning that you may only have up to six in your deck at any time. Crumble is an effect that will activate an effect then crumble away. Meaning the card will use its Crumble ability, then after it resolves the card will be sacrificed. Crumbling Pillar|Crumbling Tower will generate 1|2 random Quanta per turn. Then the crumble effect will give you 4|6 Quanta which will match your mark. Crumbling Pillar may not use its Crumble ability, on the turn it was played. Crumbling Pillars|Crumbling Towers do not stack. They will each take a different permanent space. Since Crumbling Towers are not treated as "Towers" they do not produce Quanta the moment they are played, however they are allowed to use their ability the turn they are played. P.S. When rewording Version 2 I had to take out the words "Each Turn" in the quanta production effect. I think people are smart enought to assume though... I think. SERIES: Crumble (Includes Curse of Crumbling, Crumbling Golem|Crumbling Colossus, Crumbling Pillar|Crumbling Tower, Crumbling Shield, and Crumbling Sword)

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NAME: Crumbling Pillar ELEMENT: COST: 0 TYPE: ATK|HP: TEXT: Each turn 1 quanta is generated. 1 : Crumble Generate 4 quanta.	NAME: Crumbling Tower ELEMENT: COST: 0 TYPE: ATK|HP: TEXT: Each turn 2 quanta is generated. 0 : Crumble Generate 6 quanta.

ART: N/A IDEA: EvilDeath66X NOTES: This card is not treated as a pillar, meaning that you may only have up to six in your deck at any time. Crumble is an effect that will activate an effect then crumble away. Meaning the card will use its Crumble ability, then after it resolves the card will be sacrificed. Crumbling Pillar|Crumbling Tower will generate 1|2 Quanta per turn which will match your mark. Then the crumble effect will give you 4|6 Quanta which will also match your mark. Crumbling Pillar may not use its Crumble ability, on the turn it was played. Crumbling Pillars|Crumbling Towers do not stack. They will each take a different permanent space. Since Crumbling Towers are not treated as "Towers" they do not produce Quanta the moment they are played, however they are allowed to use their ability the turn they are played. SERIES: Crumble (Includes Curse of Crumbling, Crumbling Golem|Crumbling Colossus, Crumbling Pillar|Crumbling Tower, Crumbling Shield, and Crumbling Sword)

[OdinVanguard]

This wording might work out well for upgraded version:

"Generates 2 quanta per turn. May use Crumble immediately.
0, Crumble: Generate 6 quanta, then self-destruct."

It lets people know they can use it immediately.

The unupgraded one could be changed to match:
"Generates 1 quanta per turn.
1, Crumble: Generate 4 quanta, then self-destruct."

I think you should probably just let people use the unupgraded skill immediately if they have to pay for it. They only get 1/2 the quanta compared to upgraded version and the upgraded can be used for free, so there is still more than enough incentive to upgrade.

[mega plini]

seems OP to me. 2 quanta per turn is OP compared to towers, then the crumble ability gives 6 quanta for free? That would be like an imolation without a cost!

[Pella]

Interesting idea.

[Picker of Nits]
The singular of "quanta" is "quantum".  Therefore, the unupped should read, "Each turn, 1 quantum is generated." Or, following OdinVanguard's advice: "Generates 1 quantum per turn."  If you can squeeze "matching your mark" in there, I would.
[/PoN]


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seems OP to me. 2 quanta per turn is OP compared to towers, then the crumble ability gives 6 quanta for free? That would be like an imolation without a cost!

Immolation already has no cost.

[OdinVanguard]

seems OP to me. 2 quanta per turn is OP compared to towers, then the crumble ability gives 6 quanta for free? That would be like an imolation without a cost!

Assuming that the quanta production is random (not matching mark) except when crumble is used, 2 quanta per turn is not OP. If this thing produces random quanta, it should be compared to quantum towers, not regular towers.

Quantum towers and pillars alike provide 3 quanta per turn, so there is really no issue.

Also, don't forget that Immolate doesn't produce just 6 . It also produces 1 of each type (like nova) so in the end, you get 17 quanta from immolate, not 6.
 
I would say this card is actually slightly UP not OP...

Although I do think that the upgraded version should either have a skill cost of 1 or the unupgraded cost should be lowered to 0 as well.

[mega plini]

Immolation already has no cost.

with no cost I mean that you don't have to sacrifice a creature. Immolation loses you an extra card in favor of extra speed. this card just gives you the extra speed. that's why I think it is OP

[OdinVanguard]

Immolation already has no cost.

with no cost I mean that you don't have to sacrifice a creature. Immolation loses you an extra card in favor of extra speed. this card just gives you the extra speed. that's why I think it is OP

I do agree that the lack of needing a creature sacrifice is very significant, but I'm not sure whether or not losing the extra 11 will make up or not.

So to sum up:

-Immolate: 6 + 11 at a cost of 1 spell card + 1 creature card

-This card: 6 at a cost of 1 permanent card

So the question is:  "Is 11 worth as much as 1 creature sacrifice?"

[blarp]

This would add more flavor to the original quantum pillars, but I dont think another card is neccessary.

I dont think the upped version is better than a quantum tower, as you gain 3 quanta when played.

[OldTrees]

So to sum up:

-Immolate: 6 + 11 at a cost of 1 spell card + 1 creature card

-This card: 6 at a cost of 1 permanent card

So the question is:  "Is 11 worth as much as 1 creature sacrifice?"

Nova will answer the important part of your question.

[blarp]

There's also some benefit with nova and immo in that they guarentee certain quanta. The randomness of this quanta is another nerf.

[CuCN]

This quanta is not random! In the notes it says that the quanta generated matches your mark.

[blarp]

This quanta is not random! In the notes it says that the quanta generated matches your mark.

Oh really? Op then
Not op in all cases, but it only takes a couple.