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Crow | Jealous Crow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14206.msg179403#msg179403
« on: October 18, 2010, 11:16:48 pm »
NAME:
Crow
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
3 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
C|2
TEXT:
Greed: Crow's attack is equal to the number of cards in the hand of the enemy.
NAME:
Jealous Crow
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
3 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
C+1|2
TEXT:
Greed: Jealous Crow's attack is equal to the number of cards in the hand of the enemy plus 1.
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
C is always calculated immediately before Crow | Jealous Crow attacks.

Practically immune to Antimatter and Blessings, this card benefits greatly from Nightmare.

Greed is affected by lobotomize. If it is, the attack of Crow | Jealous Crow is equal to C | C+1 where C = 0.

Airborne.

CiHPT Study: Cards in Hand Per Turn
Fight Number
Coin Toss
Turn 1
Turn 2
Turn 3
Turn 4
Turn 5
Turn 6
Turn 7
Turn 8
Turn 9
Turn 10
Fight 1
W
7
3
2
1
0
0
0
1
1
N/A
Fight 2
W
7
3
3
3
3
3
4
4
4
4
Fight 3
W
7
5
5
5
5
5
4
4
N/A
N/A
Fight 4
W
7
5
4
4
4
4
4
3
N/A
N/A
Fight 5
W
7
5
4
3
2
1
1
1
1
N/A
Fight 6
L
2
1
0
0
0
1
0
0
N/A
N/A
Fight 7
W
7
5
4
4
4
3
3
3
N/A
N/A
Fight 8
W
7
5
3
3
2
2
2
2
2
N/A
Fight 9
W
7
4
4
4
5
5
4
5
4
N/A
Fight 10
W
7
3
3
2
2
1
1
1
N/A
N/A
    Summed values for Fight 1 = 15Summed values for Fight 2 = 38Summed values for Fight 3 = 40Summed values for Fight 4 = 35Summed values for Fight 5 = 25Summed values for Fight 6 = 4Summed values for Fight 7 = 33Summed values for Fight 8 = 28Summed values for Fight 9 = 42Summed values for Fight 10 = 20Summed value of all fights = 280Total number of Turns = 86Average hypothetical value of C = 3.255813953488372
The study considers a 7 card hand for the enemy in turn 1 if the coin toss is won, as Crow | Jealous Crow has the possibility of being summoned at that point.
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Re: Crow | Jealous Crow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14206.msg179407#msg179407
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 11:19:16 pm »
in their hand or played on their side of the field?
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Re: Crow | Jealous Crow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14206.msg179409#msg179409
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 11:19:45 pm »
in their hand or played on their side of the field?
The card specifically says in hand.
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Re: Crow | Jealous Crow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14206.msg179411#msg179411
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 11:20:37 pm »
if it is hand, then this card is ridiculousy UP and it would only work with precognition.
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Re: Crow | Jealous Crow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14206.msg179413#msg179413
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 11:21:56 pm »
if it is hand, then this card is ridiculousy UP and it would only work with precognition.
3 quanta for a potentially 9 attack creature is not UP. 3 quanta for a potentially 20+ attack creature is OP.
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Re: Crow | Jealous Crow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14206.msg179415#msg179415
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 11:22:58 pm »
but what are the chances that your opponent will have that many creatures. what, for that matter, is the chance that he will even have 3
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Re: Crow | Jealous Crow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14206.msg179419#msg179419
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 11:24:32 pm »
but what are the chances that your opponent will have that many creatures. what, for that matter, is the chance that he will even have 3
Note the word cards. Not creatures. That would include permanents as well, and unless your opponent is a pillarless deck, there would be plenty of those.
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Re: Crow | Jealous Crow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14206.msg179460#msg179460
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 12:38:59 am »
Nightmare.

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Re: Crow | Jealous Crow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14206.msg180498#msg180498
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2010, 03:55:27 pm »
Added interesting findings in regards to the average amount of cards AI3 has in hand per turn.

EDIT: Reset poll with an option for Crow | Jealous Crow costing 2 :air.
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