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Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130101#msg1130101
« on: March 20, 2014, 03:34:50 am »
NAME:
Creeper
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 2
TEXT:
Trigger 'Ignite' when targeted.
:fire  : Blast. Sacrifice Creeper to deal 8 spell damage to the opponent.
NAME:
Charged Creeper
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 2
TEXT:
Trigger 'Ignite' when targeted.
:fire  : Blast. Sacrifice Charged Creeper to deal 10 spell damage to the opponent.

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NOTES:
So I've been playing a lot of Minecraft recently, and figured I should work on my first ever card series! (Yay for me!)

For those who don't know, Creepers in Minecraft are basically walking proximity mines. They walk up to you, start a fuse and then explode resulting in much pain and despair.

The Ignite ability is the same as that of Unstable Gas, just with less damage and without the creature effects.

The targeting statement means that any spell or ability that targets the Creeper will cause the ability to activate for free. Also the effect of the spell or ability is cancelled, since the exploding will happen first. This is to stop the floods of people screaming "Fractal Creeper OP!". The only times targeting will not blow up the Creeper is if it is frozen or delayed. This can only occur through Ice Shield, Procrastination and Pandemonium, since these do not target. Then you can target it however you like with no effect.

If the 'Ignite' ability is removed or replaced whilst the Creeper is frozen or delayed, or you get a mutant Creeper with another ability, the targeting statement becomes void and irrelevant. Targeting your mutant Creeper with Dive won't do anything (except the effect of the target, of course).

Balancing and number switches can be arranged if deemed necessary.

All questions and constructive criticism welcome.

Click >>HERE<< for more info about Creepers or click >>HERE<< for more info about Minecraft.
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« Last Edit: March 21, 2014, 02:16:22 am by eljoemo »
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130102#msg1130102
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2014, 03:37:21 am »
There are ways to evade creepers... DO you think that its attack should be so high?
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130111#msg1130111
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2014, 03:55:56 am »
There are ways to evade creepers... DO you think that its attack should be so high?

Yes technically, it's attack should be lower but I just went for 4 because no current unupped fire creature has 4 attack (unless I'm mistaken). Upped is more stepping in MP territory but MP and this card would have different uses. I did think about the balance between the 4 damage and the 8 ability damage and decided it was good, but I'm open to hearing your reasoning if you have another idea :)
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130112#msg1130112
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2014, 03:58:36 am »
I would increase the price of the upped by 1... Just to equal out. I would also decrease the Spell Damage of the unnuped by 2... That's why too much firepower for an unnupped with a cost of 4.
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130123#msg1130123
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2014, 04:32:32 am »
I would increase the price of the upped by 1... Just to equal out. I would also decrease the Spell Damage of the unnuped by 2... That's why too much firepower for an unnupped with a cost of 4.

Hmmm, I can't help but think it would be UP with those stat drops. The 6 damage is only 2 more damage than a standard attack would do (assuming no shields) so it wouldn't seem worth detonating for an extra 2 damage (or more depending on shields). I mean, there are circumstances when yes, detonating for 6 would be worth it. But how many times compare to the current 8 damage. I, personally, would rather drop the normal damage than the ability damage.

As for the costing (which I feel I should explain), it was worked off the upped Unstable Gas, costing 5 :air and using :fire to trigger. You can only have 6 of both of these in a deck so we're the same there. UG needs a duo so the cost for this in a mono goes up. However this does half the damage and doesn't affect creatures so its worse in that way. Its probably harder to remove a Creeper (safely) than an UG so it's better there. The ability can be trigger on the turn it is played but at the cost of a wasted card so its about even. The 4 attack isn't much (I'd say) in the upped meta. Destroyers and MPs are both much better for damage to cost ratio. When I think about all that, 4 :fire just comes to mind. Then the unupped is just a weaker version with the same cost.
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130124#msg1130124
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2014, 04:38:57 am »
Maybe you can do the effect "deal 1 damage to all monsters adjacent to this monster" to maximize the damage and to make the creepers effect more realistic.
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130125#msg1130125
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2014, 04:49:00 am »
Maybe you can do the effect "deal 1 damage to all monsters adjacent to this monster" to maximize the damage and to make the creepers effect more realistic.

Damaging your creatures could possibly make it more balanced but also possibly less useful. The idea of also damage creatures (although not necessarily your own) did cross my mind but I didn't include it for certain reasons. Firstly, it would make the card to similar to UG. I'm trying to to make this just a creature version of Unstable Gas. I'm probably failing but I don't just want to take a permanent, change some numbers and make it a creature. Secondly, would it really make sense to damage the area around the creeper, but then do damage to the opponent. That sort of suggests that its a localized explosion but it also affects your opponent, yet none of his creatures. UG's affect all policy can be somewhat understood when look at like this.

But the final reason, and probably the most important, why it would be difficult to add this: I ran out of room on the card. 4 lines isn't much space when you have to fit 2 (or 3) effects onto there. Maybe I could reword it but maybe not.
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130126#msg1130126
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2014, 04:56:53 am »
Damaging your creatures could possibly make it more balanced but also possibly less useful. The idea of also damage creatures (although not necessarily your own) did cross my mind but I didn't include it for certain reasons. Firstly, it would make the card to similar to UG. I'm trying to to make this just a creature version of Unstable Gas. I'm probably failing but I don't just want to take a permanent, change some numbers and make it a creature. Secondly, would it really make sense to damage the area around the creeper, but then do damage to the opponent. That sort of suggests that its a localized explosion but it also affects your opponent, yet none of his creatures. UG's affect all policy can be somewhat understood when look at like this.

But the final reason, and probably the most important, why it would be difficult to add this: I ran out of room on the card. 4 lines isn't much space when you have to fit 2 (or 3) effects onto there. Maybe I could reword it but maybe not.
Creepers blow up the area around it, but if the explosion catches the player it does drastic measures (8 damage).
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130129#msg1130129
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2014, 06:06:26 am »
I like it, ability name should be different, but other than that its pretty good. The only thing I can come up with,  "against" this card is that firelings dont want new cards that help with the fire rush... like this one, more control cards etc. but meeh, its good  :P
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130237#msg1130237
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2014, 12:51:30 am »
I like it, ability name should be different, but other than that its pretty good. The only thing I can come up with,  "against" this card is that firelings dont want new cards that help with the fire rush... like this one, more control cards etc. but meeh, its good  :P
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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130241#msg1130241
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2014, 01:12:43 am »
The upped image should be that of a charged creeper e.g. blue rimmed. Images can be found on the Minecraft Wiki.

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Re: Creeper | Charged Creeper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54060.msg1130251#msg1130251
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2014, 02:20:12 am »
Updated the OP. The ability is now "Blast". I tried both Detonate and Explode but both were too long and caused the top text to run onto the next line. Also fixed the typo which was hiding in there so all good.

The upped image should be that of a charged creeper e.g. blue rimmed. Images can be found on the Minecraft Wiki.
I scouted around the place but couldn't find one with a transparent background. Also I would have to spend at least 5 minutes recreating the art because I delete the original powerpoint file, so it stays for now. I didn't think anyone would be picky enough to point this out :P
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