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Re: Overload | Overload https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56668.msg1166798#msg1166798
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2014, 02:15:15 am »
I am behind Naesala.
Unquestionably, this is OP and would make aether much more powerful than it is now.
A more reasonable element to put this in would be one of the weaker elements.
Also, a nerf would be to decrease both of the damages dealt.

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Re: Overload | Overload https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56668.msg1166853#msg1166853
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2014, 07:49:03 am »
i would just like to say one thing.


WHY have you put this in  aether!!!!!!!


put it in an element without a super strong mono pl0x. maybe  :gravity?
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Re: Overload | Overload https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56668.msg1166854#msg1166854
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2014, 07:53:16 am »
Gravity already has two forms of PC though. It doesnt really need this either, for different reasons. With the current thematic, only elements who don't need this have access. A different thematic could help it into a weak element.
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Re: Overload | Overload https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56668.msg1167720#msg1167720
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2014, 07:30:36 pm »
So it looks like when I do best not to lowball a card I end up overdoing it and make it op now. LOL... I could drop the CC down to 2 or 3 I suppose.

The bypass shield was meant so that the player damage is a true double edge. If this is too strong, I could go with "ignore's owner's shield" instead. Then mirror shields still help the opponent but not you, making the double edge more sever.

As for the rise in immortal spam, what if the CC effect ignored immaterial status. I.e. there is no getting around its destruction. Would that help or just make it worse?

I understand aether has a lot going for it. My goal with this card was to be a "last resort" card or finishing move.

I can move it to another element if needed, but thematically, there are only a handful it fits in.
It fits in :fire but honestly, fire doesn't need it because it won't add anything new to it.
Similarly gravity already has PC, CC and many ways to bypass shields so thats not a good fit either.
Similar situation for entropy.
As has been discussed, air already has unstable gas.
It doesn't really fit in earth, life, water, or light.
That leaves darkness, death, or time... I'm not sure which to go with though.
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Re: Overload | Overload https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56668.msg1167736#msg1167736
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2014, 08:30:14 pm »
Of those options, Death. And touching Immortals is a no-no. I don't like those kinds of exceptions.
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Re: Overload | Overload https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56668.msg1167750#msg1167750
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2014, 09:27:45 pm »
maybe it could go in  :time?
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Re: Overload | Overload https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56668.msg1167858#msg1167858
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2014, 11:33:29 am »
maybe it could go in  :time?

To be perfectly honest. I don't think this card should be in any element. I don't think any element deserves PC, CC, Mass CC and Spell damage. It's just too much.
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Re: Overload | Overload https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56668.msg1168139#msg1168139
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2014, 11:17:42 pm »
maybe it could go in  :time?

To be perfectly honest. I don't think this card should be in any element. I don't think any element deserves PC, CC, Mass CC and Spell damage. It's just too much.
Too much.
Please nerf and move out of Aether.
Don't think of it as a decrease of potency. Think of it as a balance made out of sense.

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Re: Overload | Overload https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56668.msg1168140#msg1168140
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2014, 11:21:29 pm »
Mass CC for :aether would mean a massive rise in Immortal popularity. I think this should be in a different element, probably :fire.
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