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Re: Converter | Converter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49738.msg1104081#msg1104081
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2013, 11:08:58 pm »
I would so run a modified SoP-sparktal with these and nova / cremation..
actually, that could work well just replacing the sparks with these. Super nova would power 6 a pop... cremation could power about 4 to 5 each.
Just use dim shield till you can get them high enough to knock the opponent down to a few hitpoints and sac all but the one you need for the finishing blow.
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Re: Converter | Converter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49738.msg1104083#msg1104083
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2013, 11:12:22 pm »
I would so run a modified SoP-sparktal with these and nova / cremation..
actually, that could work well just replacing the sparks with these. Super nova would power 6 a pop... cremation could power about 4 to 5 each.
Just use dim shield till you can get them high enough to knock the opponent down to a few hitpoints and sac all but the one you need for the finishing blow.
They are UP for self-sacrificing means. Only their HP is what can be abused. Sparks are different story, they have some attack power at least.
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Re: Converter | Converter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49738.msg1104086#msg1104086
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2013, 11:16:35 pm »
I would so run a modified SoP-sparktal with these and nova / cremation..
actually, that could work well just replacing the sparks with these. Super nova would power 6 a pop... cremation could power about 4 to 5 each.
Just use dim shield till you can get them high enough to knock the opponent down to a few hitpoints and sac all but the one you need for the finishing blow.
They are UP for self-sacrificing means. Only their HP is what can be abused. Sparks are different story, they have some attack power at least.
Wait a second, is it the creature's HP that is used to calculate the electrum gain (or HP + Attack), or its casting cost?

I thought casting cost was it.

If its HP and / or attack, then its a relatively mute point anyway. SoP will be ramping up bot attack and HP so you would have a good return in either case.
Whether the glass is half full or half empty is a moot point. It is always filled to the brim. It is only a matter of by what. The real question is: What fills you?
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kill -9 `ps l | awk '{print $2" "$3" "$9}' | grep "Z" | awk '{printf("%s ",$2)}'`
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Re: Converter | Converter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49738.msg1104091#msg1104091
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2013, 11:20:18 pm »
I would so run a modified SoP-sparktal with these and nova / cremation..
actually, that could work well just replacing the sparks with these. Super nova would power 6 a pop... cremation could power about 4 to 5 each.
Just use dim shield till you can get them high enough to knock the opponent down to a few hitpoints and sac all but the one you need for the finishing blow.
They are UP for self-sacrificing means. Only their HP is what can be abused. Sparks are different story, they have some attack power at least.
Wait a second, is it the creature's HP that is used to calculate the electrum gain (or HP + Attack), or its casting cost?

I thought casting cost was it.

If its HP and / or attack, then its a relatively mute point anyway. SoP will be ramping up bot attack and HP so you would have a good return in either case.

It's summoning cost what is counted in a sacrifice. ;) HP is just abusable with some combos.

So an intented Singularity on your field would give 10 :electrum.
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Re: Converter | Converter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49738.msg1104402#msg1104402
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2013, 04:18:34 am »
I would like to note that it's a hard counter to Antimatter and Aflatoxin, and at the very least Aflatoxin is quite weak enough already.

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Re: Converter | Converter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49738.msg1104403#msg1104403
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2013, 04:20:46 am »
I would like to note that it's a hard counter to Antimatter and Aflatoxin, and at the very least Aflatoxin is quite weak enough already.

So is catapult, purity, angel, holylight, etc. So maybe they need to buff alfatoxin :P

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Re: Converter | Converter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49738.msg1104544#msg1104544
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2013, 06:35:50 pm »
I would like to note that it's a hard counter to Antimatter and Aflatoxin, and at the very least Aflatoxin is quite weak enough already.

So is catapult, purity, angel, holylight, etc. So maybe they need to buff alfatoxin :P
Purify is actually very useful in some situations, now that it can target creatures as well as players. And cata-titans is definitely not UP.
I do think you're right about aflatoxin though. It could probably do with a cost reduction if nothing else.
Whether the glass is half full or half empty is a moot point. It is always filled to the brim. It is only a matter of by what. The real question is: What fills you?
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Re: Converter | Converter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49738.msg1104556#msg1104556
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2013, 07:19:45 pm »
How much abusable could this card be in AI0?
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Re: Converter | Converter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49738.msg1104577#msg1104577
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2013, 08:22:53 pm »
I would like to note that it's a hard counter to Antimatter and Aflatoxin, and at the very least Aflatoxin is quite weak enough already.

So is catapult, purity, angel, holylight, etc. So maybe they need to buff alfatoxin :P
Purify is actually very useful in some situations, now that it can target creatures as well as players. And cata-titans is definitely not UP.
I do think you're right about aflatoxin though. It could probably do with a cost reduction if nothing else.

I wasn't saying that were UP I was saying they were hard counters to alfatoxin ._.

 

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