Converter | Converter

[Rutarete]

For reference:http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19892.0.html

[Keolino]

Right now, if you upgrade this card, you will need to play it 250 times to gain back the money you "wasted" by upgrading it. In my opinion, this is a bit much.

Also, what happens if you put this into an arena deck...? If you still get the money if the deck wins, this card will be the most used card in arena

[Higurashi]

It wouldn't work unless you were playing the deck. Right, so, since you can only have 6 copies of a card you can at most get 36 electrum from it. It'd make AI0-AI2 viable for farming, but taking this route is reaaaally breaking the 4th wall. This is a fantasy game and immersion is important, but... perhaps it would be possible to make this without saying what it does in the actual game? Something like "Sacrifice target creature to gain alchemy".

I actually think this could be made much more interesting by the usage of counters and conditions, but first we need to put it back into the fantasy setting.

[Elbirn]

"Alchemy: Transmute target permanent. Gain 3 additional electrum after the match."


But Honestly I'd prefer something like

"Alchemy: Transmute target permanent. Gain X additional quanta"

Heck that could be like, a / card, where it uses fire quanta to generate time quanta (i.e. gold)
I don't want to say the idea is bad, I just don't like the idea of a card causing an effect not related to the game itself. Plus it sounds like it'd be a b*tch to code xP

[Submachine]

It wouldn't work unless you were playing the deck. Right, so, since you can only have 6 copies of a card you can at most get 36 electrum from it. It'd make AI0-AI2 viable for farming, but taking this route is reaaaally breaking the 4th wall. This is a fantasy game and immersion is important, but... perhaps it would be possible to make this without saying what it does in the actual game? Something like "Sacrifice target creature to gain alchemy".

I actually think this could be made much more interesting by the usage of counters and conditions, but first we need to put it back into the fantasy setting.

It's not an easy task, to put the non-fantasy part of the game into the fantasy realm. But in fact, it could be done. First we need to clarify why people are duelling each other in this fantasy world or why are they getting coins and special spins after each duel? Maybe players are just friendly duelists on an island who battle each other to get experience for mastering all the elements (like in the Last Airbender)? But why are they getting money for it? Maybe they just rob each other after each win. Or is the scene taking place in a forest where there are several creatures who can cast arcane spells and loot each prey? Considering Catapult and Crusader, maybe there's an elemental war taking place, where they demand ransom and knowledge (spins) from the players who lose, just to set them free after the duel? Maybe it should be called ransom. What do you think?

[skyironsword]

... It gives you 3|6 electrum? Pillars sell for more than that

[Submachine]

... It gives you 3|6 electrum? Pillars sell for more than that

In a full stack it can give 18|36. It must give less than a FG in order not to be OP.

[Cthulhu]

I second making this some sort of creature or permanent with an "alchemy ability." and should gain you electrum based on the cards cost so you can't just spam cheap things and get tons of money.

[Submachine]

I second making this some sort of creature or permanent with an "alchemy ability." and should gain you electrum based on the cards cost so you can't just spam cheap things and get tons of money.

So you mean a creature with an ability that gives equal amount of electrum as the cost of the sacrificed target creature? Seems more balanced to me than enabling killing cheap creatures for example. Thanks for clarifying!

[Cthulhu]

Yeah, would make it more flavorful and also would let the ai kill it. If the cost to activate is steep enough or the creature costs enough it should be fine, and fun with mitosis.

[OdinVanguard]

And it would make a nice counter to AM or similar tactics.

[Submachine]

I made it a creature and gave it some other uses too. The skill is lobotomizable, but a sacrificed creature will still give bonus after the duel if you win but your Converter got lobotomized/killed. I tried to make the upgraded version worth the 1500 . What do you think?