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Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1202641#msg1202641
« on: August 29, 2015, 01:32:58 am »
NAME:
Construct Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Attacking creatures have a 1% chance to miss for each :gravity in your possession.
NAME:
Construct Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Attacking creatures have a 1% chance to miss for each quanta of your Mark in your possession.

ART:

IDEA:
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NOTES:
Like a dusk shield, except it depends on how much quanta you have. Ideally this would update live, but it's probably fine updating at the end of your turn, like Hope does. The upped is different because I wanted it to be, I could always just switch to a cost decrease if its going to be a problem.

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« Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 08:03:03 pm by eljoemo »
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Re: Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1202681#msg1202681
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2015, 12:38:26 pm »
It takes either a long time or a big part of the deck to get 50 quanta of a single element.
Thus, I think dusk is almost always better.
Perhaps lower the cost of the unupped. Not sure about the upped.
be quick- time is quanta.

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Re: Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1203622#msg1203622
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2015, 08:20:00 pm »
It takes either a long time or a big part of the deck to get 50 quanta of a single element.
Thus, I think dusk is almost always better.
Perhaps lower the cost of the unupped. Not sure about the upped.
Cremation would get you there pretty fast.
The unupgraded one seems a little too weak though since there is no way to accelerate gravity production.

Using upgraded sundials you can buy several turns to get the quanta you need.

75% evasion chance is nothing to sneeze at... and it synnergies well with farenheit and bolt strategies that require a lot of focus on quanta generation to begin with.
Plus it makes a very nice shield for a fire deck.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2015, 08:26:39 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1203624#msg1203624
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2015, 08:25:53 pm »
Supernovas and quantum towers would get you there pretty fast.
I think the upped version is still quite forced... It will either be crappy in non-bow decks, or else become like an infinite duration phase shield in focused decks (this happens at 100 + quanta).
how will SN or quantum towers help you get a single element?
how will you get over 75 quanta of a single type?
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Re: Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1203625#msg1203625
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2015, 08:26:30 pm »
Supernovas and quantum towers would get you there pretty fast.
I think the upped version is still quite forced... It will either be crappy in non-bow decks, or else become like an infinite duration phase shield in focused decks (this happens at 100 + quanta).
how will SN or quantum towers help you get a single element?
how will you get over 75 quanta of a single type?
thought it was any quanta when I first read it. still very viable with cremation though.
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Re: Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1204091#msg1204091
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2015, 06:32:17 pm »
The main purpose of this card was just to give Gravity a better shield. The upped being mark quanta was just something I thought might be a nice touch, if it's going to be a problem I can switch it out.

Something I can see is that once you reach around 75 quanta it is practically impossible for your opponent to knock you down. Discord can only scramble 9, Pests can only do 1 each, you basically end up with a 75% shield. Of course its still vulnerable to PC but its still going to be a massive pain unless you stop it early.
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Re: Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1204094#msg1204094
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2015, 06:57:00 pm »
So, earthquake and Amber nymph anti-stall-stallingbow ftw?  :P  :P

Anyway, a nice touch for Gravity. 75% chance of missing with your quanta pool at max is a nice touch. Would be nice in a rage quit deck.
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Re: Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1204167#msg1204167
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2015, 02:41:56 am »
I think the cost should go way way down, like, as low as Fog. The reason being that for a long time it isn't even going to be as good as Fog, and costing 6 :gravity just to play it will only hinder it further.
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Re: Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1204170#msg1204170
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2015, 03:07:48 am »
I'd imagine the upped would be fun in a Gravy/Light stall whatwith Light's insane quanta gainingness power (yay for grammar).

But I'd have to agree with UndeadSpider that the cost could and maybe should be lower.
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Re: Construct Shield | Construct Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59335.msg1204258#msg1204258
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2015, 08:05:25 pm »
Lowered the cost to 3 / 4 :gravity, we'll see how that turns out. I also have an idea for art that I think will look really sweet so you might see that in the near future.

One more thing, I'm not sure if the upped should have a slightly different name since it has a different effect, any thoughts about this?
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