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Cherufe | Cherufe https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336644#msg336644
« on: May 19, 2011, 02:33:27 am »
NAME:
Cherufe
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
5 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|2
TEXT:
:death :death :death Feed: Sacrifice a smaller creature,
Cherufe gains atk and hp equal to half the
total stats of the sacrifice.
NAME:
Cherufe
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
5 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|2
TEXT:
:death :death :death Feed: Sacrifice a smaller creature,
Cherufe gains atk and hp equal to half the
total stats of the sacrifice.
ART:
Art by Flayne
IDEA:
Flayne
NOTES:
So lets say that I sacrifice an unnupped Pheonix (stats: 7 / 1)

Cherufe gains in +X / +X = (7 +1) / 2 =8 / 2 = 4 = 4 (Rounded down)

Now Cherufe (unnupped) has 7 / 6 as stats, which means It can eat a friendly
creature that has under 6 hp.


personal balancing opinions:
Pretty good sync with Pheonix unnupped, constantly gaining (7 + 1 )/ 2 = 4 to both its stats.
Can sync well with :death for death effects.
Syncs well with Fire potion and perhaps other cards.
Quite a versatile card for fire, though a little expensive on the ability cost but Dream catcher would normally solve that in a duo :fire :death deck.

Can be well countered by a number of effects such as Paradox, Gravity shield, lobo, etc.

I placed the ability cost as :death because of the information I gathered from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherufe
:death thematically represents death rituals closer than any other element.

Open to suggestions/opinions.  :)
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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336658#msg336658
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2011, 02:52:47 am »
here's a possibly interesting idea: make the upped one also round the numbers UP. this way, the buffs will increase!
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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336659#msg336659
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 02:54:47 am »
so sacrificing a Ruby Dragon would give this thing +8|+8...
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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336667#msg336667
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 02:59:36 am »
with the original idea, yes. with mine, +9|+9.  (It's combined stats, not just attack.)
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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336686#msg336686
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 04:27:26 am »
Just one problem with this thing... Using a trio :gravity / :fire / :air deck and a :death mark, I can use Titan, Animate Weapon, and Cherufe.
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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336687#msg336687
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 04:30:36 am »
Just one problem with this thing... Using a trio :gravity / :fire / :air deck and a :death mark, I can use Titan, Animate Weapon, and Cherufe.
Or even just a Death-mark Grav/Fire, since upped Animate uses random quanta... dang. +28/+28 is brutal.

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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336689#msg336689
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 04:31:29 am »
Just one problem with this thing... Using a trio :gravity / :fire / :air deck and a :death mark, I can use Titan, Animate Weapon, and Cherufe.
Or even just a Death-mark Grav/Fire, since upped Animate uses random quanta... dang. +28/+28 is brutal.
Technically, using Animate Weapon makes it a trio... But you only need 2 kinds of pillars for it to work.  ???
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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336694#msg336694
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2011, 05:03:54 am »
@Flayne
You might want to use the other card generator to check if your text will fit. 4 lines is a good restriction to promote conciseness.
"lower hp friendly" is unnecessary. You can only sack things you control and things you control will obey you.
"+X/+X. X = " is unnecessary because you are defining and using the variable only once in the text.
"(rounded down)." is good if it fits when you reformat to the correct font and size but it can be readily discovered if necessary.
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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336720#msg336720
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 07:37:13 am »
Might want to fix up your text. This is great card but think you have forgotten the lower hp thing...so this may need a re-thought on the hp or the ability

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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336844#msg336844
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2011, 02:35:42 pm »
Sorry If I had been absent during all these replies, unexpectedly I had to leave after posting the idea.  ^^;
here's a possibly interesting idea: make the upped one also round the numbers UP. this way, the buffs will increase!
If I make it Upped the following would occur:
absorb Crimson dragon with 12 / 3. 12 + 3 = 15 / 2 = 7.5 = 8 rounded up. or = 7 rounded down.

Basically It would gain an extra point, I doubt it needs an extra atk buff since potentially It could be too powerful.

so sacrificing a Ruby Dragon would give this thing +8|+8...
That is only for upgraded version, but yes It would, However Mono  :fire with this doesn't work too well, despite using only :death - :fire pendulums.
But I am considering on leaving it on 2 hp for upped aswell.

Just one problem with this thing... Using a trio :gravity / :fire / :air deck and a :death mark, I can use Titan, Animate Weapon, and Cherufe.
Just one problem with this thing... Using a trio :gravity / :fire / :air deck and a :death mark, I can use Titan, Animate Weapon, and Cherufe.
Or even just a Death-mark Grav/Fire, since upped Animate uses random quanta... dang. +28/+28 is brutal.
Just one problem with this thing... Using a trio :gravity / :fire / :air deck and a :death mark, I can use Titan, Animate Weapon, and Cherufe.
Or even just a Death-mark Grav/Fire, since upped Animate uses random quanta... dang. +28/+28 is brutal.
Technically, using Animate Weapon makes it a trio... But you only need 2 kinds of pillars for it to work.  ???
This will not work unless You have quite the patience and defense.
By the time You have absorbed all your friendly creatures, finally giving Cherufe +50 hp, The battle would be over or you would deck out. besides, How far are you going to go from absorbing all your own creatures?
Not very strategic at all. Besides, Trios that are dependent on one creature to be its main game maker don't usually work that well.
I would say absorbing dragons + Fire pot would work better, imo.


@Flayne
You might want to use the other card generator to check if your text will fit. 4 lines is a good restriction to promote conciseness.
"lower hp friendly" is unnecessary. You can only sack things you control and things you control will obey you.
"+X/+X. X = " is unnecessary because you are defining and using the variable only once in the text.
"(rounded down)." is good if it fits when you reformat to the correct font and size but it can be readily discovered if necessary.
Sorry about that, The computer I am generally using from monday-thursday doesn't seem to work with the Elements card maker program made by planplan. I do not know why, I tried fixing it but it just won't work on this computer, so I had no choice but to use pixlr template.  ^^;

You are absolutely correct! I had forgotten to simplify it to just the single X variable, since I wrote it down somewhere as I was brainstorming, I had just simply copied-paste without thinking, thats me, sucky with maths lol  :))
However, I need to keep the lower hp factor so it keeps this card controlled.
would "Sacrifice a weaker creature" work?
(ALthough I want to express that it is only friendly creatures, would "sacrifce" alone be clear enough?)

Might want to fix up your text. This is great card but think you have forgotten the lower hp thing...so this may need a re-thought on the hp or the ability
I'm not sure I understand your implication, what lower hp thing? It says: "Lower hp friendly creature".
 





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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336854#msg336854
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2011, 02:42:22 pm »
Friendly is assumed when you say Sacrifice.
Weaker could mean either Atk or Hp. Smaller is the term Oytugh uses.
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Re: Cherufe | Cherufe (upgraded) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26466.msg336855#msg336855
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2011, 02:43:16 pm »
Friendly is assumed when you say Sacrifice.
Weaker could mean either Atk or Hp. Smaller is the term Oytugh uses.
So shall I change it to "Smaller friendly creature" ?

 

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