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Titanium Tower Shield|Diamond Tower Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20275.msg257510#msg257510
« on: January 26, 2011, 03:09:20 am »
NAME:
Titanium Tower Shield
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
10 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Damage dealt to you by physical damage sources is reduced by 2.
If Titanium Tower Shield is in your opening hand you can play it for free.
NAME:
Diamond Tower Shield
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
14 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Damage dealt to you by physical damage sources is reduced by 3.
If Diamond Tower Shield is in your opening hand you can play it for free.
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Re: Titanium Tower Shield|Diamond Tower Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20275.msg257518#msg257518
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2011, 03:20:07 am »
This seems like more of a Time card to me. Not only would the effect seem more on-element, it would have a great synergy with Precog in upped decks.

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Re: Titanium Tower Shield|Diamond Tower Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20275.msg257522#msg257522
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2011, 03:23:57 am »
. . . So it either grants you 3 defence on your first turn, or it's worse than titanium shield | Diamond shield because it costs twice as much. I'm not really liking this.
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Re: Titanium Tower Shield|Diamond Tower Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20275.msg257525#msg257525
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2011, 03:27:36 am »
This was MTG-inspired, correct? (There are cards there too that automatically come into play if in your starting hand)

. . . So it either grants you 3 defence on your first turn, or it's worse than titanium shield | Diamond shield because it costs twice as much. I'm not really liking this.
^This. It's unreasonable to make the cost so high just because you might draw it (people would use only 1 copy of these and then hope to get lucky.). I suggest the following instead.

Tower Shield starts with 5  :earth cost. For every turn it stays in your hand its cost goes up by 1.

OR

Tower Shield only provides 1 | 2 Defense and costs 4 :earth | 5 :earth

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Re: Titanium Tower Shield|Diamond Tower Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20275.msg257530#msg257530
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 03:31:36 am »
This was MTG-inspired, correct? (There are cards there too that automatically come into play if in your starting hand)

. . . So it either grants you 3 defence on your first turn, or it's worse than titanium shield | Diamond shield because it costs twice as much. I'm not really liking this.
^This. It's unreasonable to make the cost so high just because you might draw it (people would use only 1 copy of these and then hope to get lucky.). I suggest the following instead.

Tower Shield starts with 5  :earth cost. For every turn it stays in your hand its cost goes up by 1.

OR

Tower Shield only provides 1 | 2 Defense and costs 4 :earth | 5 :earth
^Not this. making this thing as powerful as Titanium Shield | Diamond Shield and have an increasing cost? Why would I even have it in my deck? For the novelty of a 1/30 chance of getting 3 free defence?

Tower Shield only provides 1 | 2 Defense and costs 4 :earth | 5 :earth

. . . So basically, it's 4 :earth for 1 defence? . . .
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Re: Titanium Tower Shield|Diamond Tower Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20275.msg257532#msg257532
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 03:34:02 am »
the diamond shield we have now is a kite, more suitable for blocking meele attacks (if im not mistaken) A tower shield was more effective when fighting arrows, and aerial   assaults, thus why not have it block 1/2 and 3/4 on air borne creatures. It would make more sense, and be more effective VS earths arch enemy air.

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Re: Titanium Tower Shield|Diamond Tower Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20275.msg257536#msg257536
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2011, 03:35:25 am »
This was MTG-inspired, correct? (There are cards there too that automatically come into play if in your starting hand)

. . . So it either grants you 3 defence on your first turn, or it's worse than titanium shield | Diamond shield because it costs twice as much. I'm not really liking this.
^This. It's unreasonable to make the cost so high just because you might draw it (people would use only 1 copy of these and then hope to get lucky.). I suggest the following instead.

Tower Shield starts with 5  :earth cost. For every turn it stays in your hand its cost goes up by 1.

OR

Tower Shield only provides 1 | 2 Defense and costs 4 :earth | 5 :earth
^Not this. making this thing as powerful as Titanium Shield | Diamond Shield and have an increasing cost? Why would I even have it in my deck? For the novelty of a 1/30 chance of getting 3 free defence?

Tower Shield only provides 1 | 2 Defense and costs 4 :earth | 5 :earth

. . . So basically, it's 4 :earth for 1 defence? . . .
I forgot to say that if you do that it retains its intial effect of being played from the hand early, but I miscalculated.  It should start for 3 | 2 and then go up at that rate, or cost 2 | 1 , defense 1 and comes into play if drawn in your start hand.


the diamond shield we have now is a kite, more suitable for blocking meele attacks (if im not mistaken) A tower shield was more effective when fighting arrows, and aerial   assaults, thus why not have it block 1/2 and 3/4 on air borne creatures. It would make more sense, and be more effective VS earths arch enemy air.
This could work. You could have it be slightly less expensive and reduce some damage from airborne creatures isntead.  Would you round up or down though?

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Re: Titanium Tower Shield|Diamond Tower Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20275.msg257540#msg257540
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2011, 03:43:31 am »
This was MTG-inspired, correct? (There are cards there too that automatically come into play if in your starting hand)
Nope, though that does bring up a talking point that has bugged me. Other TCGs take up so much design space that there is some inevitable overlap, intentional or not. If I were purposefully making a card like a card from another TCG I'd consider myself a poor designer because I'd not really be designing as much as copying. I'm perfectly ok with it legit being like another card in a well designed game though since that means I accidentally came across potentially good design space.

The real thought process was a high risk high reward anti-aggro card. The reason I went with basing it off of Titanium/Diamond Shield is because of both the simplicity and raw power it grants as a control card. The pricing took a lot more thought since I didn't want to make it too close to the others but what I finally settled on was that with a 2 pillar start (what I'd consider average with most deck builds), and a matching mark, assuming you play nothing else the shield comes down on turn 3. My rationality is that this is either 3 times as fast or twice as slow which seems to be a fair trade-off. However....
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Tower Shield only provides 1 | 2 Defense and costs 4 :earth | 5 :earth
Also seems reasonable since you're trading some of the protection for less risk.
the diamond shield we have now is a kite, more suitable for blocking meele attacks (if im not mistaken) A tower shield was more effective when fighting arrows, and aerial   assaults, thus why not have it block 1/2 and 3/4 on air borne creatures. It would make more sense, and be more effective VS earths arch enemy air.
This with the free cost (the whole reason the card exists) would be a wordy nightmare.

For the sake of balancing the card pretend it doesn't have a name. Name and flavor can be changed, mechanics are the important part for now.

 

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