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Cannon | Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg113351#msg113351
« on: July 13, 2010, 05:22:32 am »
NAME:
Cannon
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|2
ABILITY:
  :fire :fire Fire: Deals 3 damage to target creature instead of attacking this turn.
NAME:
Cannon
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|2
ABILITY:
  :fire :fire Fire: Deals damage equal to this card's Attack power to target creature. Cannot attack the turn it uses this ability.
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1121649, http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1283139
IDEA:
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SERIES:
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Re: Cannon | Railgun https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg113358#msg113358
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 05:38:05 am »
Don't know if it's a problem or not but this is a "Fantasy" game not a "SciFi"  game and I have no idea how they will take high tech in it. Now that said. I can't see the cards but i like the abilities.

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Re: Cannon | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg114873#msg114873
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2010, 05:36:34 am »
Cards generated

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Re: Cannon | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg114888#msg114888
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2010, 06:08:25 am »
Like i said befor i like the idea but i don't think they will go for it to much with the art or the names.. just seems to modern to me.Might try Ballista / Catapult.

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Re: Cannon | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg115212#msg115212
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2010, 07:37:30 pm »
The upgraded version seems a bit like lightning bolt on a stick.

This is really powerful creature control for not a whole lot of quanta. The non-upgraded is just as strong as owl's eye, you can have more than one in play, and using the ability doesn't cost any quanta.

Needs a nerf.

I agree that  :gravity is probably the best element for it.

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Re: Cannon | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg115619#msg115619
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2010, 12:42:35 am »
Yes. Make it a card of an element; the best way to balance an overpowered card.

Gravity doesn't have an exact creature control anyways, so this would be perfect!

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Re: Cannon | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg115815#msg115815
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2010, 04:10:39 am »
Card is now Gravity and has a cost to activate ability.

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Re: Cannon | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg116051#msg116051
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2010, 02:21:18 pm »
It's a definite improvement, but some of the issues with setting appropriateness and balancing still apply.

Comparing it to Owl's Eye/Eagle's Eye it does less damage to the other player, but the ability is cheaper, you can have more than one in play and the ungraded version does more damage to creatures. In fact the upgrade could take out most dragons in one shot. Eagle's Eye is a rare card, and I feel like this OP in comparison to it.

In fact the upgrade does more damage than any other renewable creature control in the game, aside from fire nymph, who also boost creatures attacks and it extremely rare. Fire nymph's ability also costs  :fire :fire :fire as opposed to :gravity . Fire nymph also only has an attack of 1 and costs 9 :fire to summon.

As far as setting appropriateness goes the names and images on the card imply something high tech and modern, whereas the game has generally stayed away from anything technological. Steam machine is, obviously, a machine but it falls more into the steam punk category then high tech. The images look modern or maybe WWII era.

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Re: Cannon | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg116219#msg116219
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2010, 06:27:20 pm »
Would just cannon pass if I found an older model?
Both cards would be a cannon.

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Re: Cannon | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg116262#msg116262
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2010, 07:16:09 pm »
Would just cannon pass if I found an older model?
Both cards would be a cannon.

Like I said befor i'd go older than a cannon to oh something like "Bolt Thrower/ Ballista" after all a Ballista is a gaint crossbow that launches upto 6 foot spears and even a dragon will feel that. Also I'd make the activation cost at least  :gravity :gravity :gravity for the unupgeaded and  :gravity :gravity :gravity :gravity for the upgraded that would nerf it to more in the "owl's eye" range. Still you could have upto 6 of these on the field.
Also up the cost to 6  :gravity or 7 :gravity to play and the upgraded one hp of 5.

Thats just what I'd do tho. Still I like the over all idea and gravity is a good choice for it.

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Re: Cannon | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9567.msg116267#msg116267
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2010, 07:25:08 pm »
card changed. Now cost 2 to activate and costs  :fire

 

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