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Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354557#msg354557
« on: June 21, 2011, 07:01:36 pm »
Hi :) It's my first attempt at making a card (and my first post in general) and it would be great if you could tell me what you think or suggest some changes.

NAME:
Cannibalism
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
5
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Your own creatures attack you and enemy creatures suffer from Antimatter until the next turn.
NAME:
Curse of Ouroboros
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
3
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Your own creatures attack you and enemy creatures suffer from Antimatter until the next turn.
ART:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Serpiente_alquimica.jpg
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Idnar
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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354562#msg354562
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 07:13:17 pm »
Alternate wording: Each turn your creatures attack you. Antimatter all enemy creatures.

The cost is (i think) a tad bit too high.
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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354575#msg354575
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 07:26:02 pm »
i think it is great, but it is a bit too expensive and unorthodox....

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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354578#msg354578
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 07:33:32 pm »
Cannibalism + Quint and now, unless your opponent can AM his own creatures, a huge number of decks have no way to win the game.  I think the whole concept is a bit OP.

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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354589#msg354589
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 07:46:36 pm »
If you think it's too expensive, then that's ok, as I said I initially wanted it to be cheaper.
That's a good point, Smurrf. But to what extent is that a threat? You'd have to be pretty lucky to get the right amount of quanta, a few quints in hand and sufficiently powerful creatures on the opponent's side to make it impossible to win. And quinting the creatures beforehand would obviously have no point since the card wouldn'y affect them.

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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354591#msg354591
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2011, 07:49:15 pm »
If you think it's too expensive, then that's ok, as I said I initially wanted it to be cheaper.
That's a good point, Smurrf. But to what extent is that a threat? You'd have to be pretty lucky to get the right amount of quanta, a few quints in hand and sufficiently powerful creatures on the opponent's side to make it impossible to win. And quinting the creatures beforehand would obviously have no point since the card wouldn'y affect them.
You don't seem to get it... Antimattering all opponent's creatures is completely OP, because that means they lose all DAMAGE sources aside from Weapons. They lose all those damage sources, and suddenly, you have an excess of healing.

Look at it this way: It costs 1 more than Antimatter, and yet it Antimatters ALL opponent's creatures. Problem? DERP.
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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354596#msg354596
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2011, 07:56:24 pm »
Well, yes, you're probably right.

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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354608#msg354608
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2011, 08:07:42 pm »
make it a spell that lasts one round?

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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354616#msg354616
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2011, 08:15:17 pm »
you guys are forgetting its only when the card comes into play so you would have to do it at the right time also i would increase the cost by 1. and since it does make ur creatures then attack you it harsh also in its own way along with if you make it last like 3-5 turns and since it is a perm any form of pc will kill it so if the card is used and its destoryed early the ability should be reverse so its lasts lets say 4 turns if i destroy it with explosion after one turn my creature are un antimattered and i continue like nothing really happened except he saved himself from deafet by 1 turn.
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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354621#msg354621
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 08:21:51 pm »
Perhaps instead of saying that the enemy creatures are antimattered when the card is played, say that enemy creatures attacks are negative while this card is in play. It's still a ridiculously powerful stall card, but at least the opponent can destroy the permanent to set their critters back to normal.

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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354626#msg354626
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 08:25:58 pm »
Zerg's idea of making it a spell I think is sufficient.  Have it read "Your creatures attack you and your opponent's creatures suffer from Antimatter until the beginning of your next turn.", or something similar.  Having it be a permanent really is a bit of overkill.

On that note, the spell really doesn't fit in the Death school.  Have it be Entropy, where it makes more sense.

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Re: Cannibalism | Curse of Ouroboros https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27817.msg354628#msg354628
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2011, 08:26:52 pm »
Zerg's idea of making it a spell I think is sufficient.  Have it read "Your creatures attack you and your opponent's creatures suffer from Antimatter until the beginning of your next turn.", or something similar.  Having it be a permanent really is a bit of overkill.

On that note, the spell really doesn't fit in the Death school.  Have it be Entropy, where it makes more sense.
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