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Blood Pact, Reunion Tree, Infectoplasm and Mimicat. We need more life combos :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3085.msg26237#msg26237
« on: February 15, 2010, 01:54:07 am »

Example:You have 3 cockatrices and a Emerald Dragon. use it on a Emerald dragon. He dies and the cockatrices gains +5/0, being 9/4 each. Rounds up.

The upgrade would be an version with less cost.



Example: You use it skill on a enemy's photon. the Infectoplasm is destroyed and the photon gains "Multiplication" status and loses one attack point, being 0/1 the next turn.
Three turns later, the photon is healing you for 3 points.

The upgrade would be only one life quamta for the skill.


Example: You use Multiplication on a enemy's Fallen Druind. He is now with 1/3 after some turns. You use Mimic Skill. The Druid will lose the Multiplication status and your Mimicat would turn into a Fallen Druid with the initial status and skill.
After that, the Infectoplasm would return to your field.

The upgrade would be a less cost version of the card


Example: You have a Fallen Druid and make a mutant with 1/10 and destroy skill. After putting Reunion Tree in the field, the skill cost would change from 3 gravity quanta to 3 life quanta. If the enemy destroy or rewind your Reunion Tree, the skill would be 3 gravity again.

The upgrade would be a version with more defense.


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Re: Blood Pact, Reunion Tree, Infectoplasm and Mimicat. We need more life combos :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3085.msg26254#msg26254
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 02:58:44 am »
Not sure I've thought about the full strategy for all of these, but definitely a new flavor of card here.  A few thoughts:

Blood pact is a backdoor way to uber-Bless your creature spam--you would get most bang for your buck using with cheaper creatures.  But since there's no restriction to :life creatures as it's described, you could use this in a typical rainbow deck with your army of Skeletons.  Most like playing a Graboid, evolving it and then applying Blood pact.  For 3 :earth and 1 :time (and the 5 :life ), all your 1/1 creatures become 5/5!!!!  So the OP potential here is great.  Would probably need to restrict it to :life creatures (which is what I think you were intending all along.)

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Infectoplasm is my favorite of these.  Like Virus meets Antimatter, but would be more effective when played on low attack creatures since you'd get healing sooner.  Antimatter for dragons, Infectoplasm for fodder.  Plus since it gets better with each turn, it'd be crushing to get this out in early game play on a lowly creature (like an unprotected Otyugh!)

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Mimicat seems too complicated to be useful:
1. Draw Infectoplasm and play it
2. Activate  Multiplication
3. Draw Mimicat and play it
4. Activate Mimic

Moreover, if I'm reading it right, you get an Infectoplasm back at some point after activating Mimic?  That seems to be too much--like getting your Virus back after killing the opponent's creature.

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Reunion tree is a good thought, but not sure what kind of deck it's built for.  You'd already need  :entropy for the Druid/Elf/Mutate, so it wouldn't help a mono  :life deck.  The exception is the case where opponent mutates your creature--but even then, they don't use to improve your deck, and Mutate leaves 1/3 dead, 1/3 Abomination and 1/3 mutant.   It eliminate the need for  :water with Forest Spirits, but not sure that's worth taking a space in your deck to gain the ability to use 1  :life instead of 1  :water .
Bring back Holy Cow!

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Re: Blood Pact, Reunion Tree, Infectoplasm and Mimicat. We need more life combos :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3085.msg26319#msg26319
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 11:53:41 am »
Not sure I've thought about the full strategy for all of these, but definitely a new flavor of card here.  A few thoughts:

Blood pact is a backdoor way to uber-Bless your creature spam--you would get most bang for your buck using with cheaper creatures.  But since there's no restriction to :life creatures as it's described, you could use this in a typical rainbow deck with your army of Skeletons.  Most like playing a Graboid, evolving it and then applying Blood pact.  For 3 :earth and 1 :time (and the 5 :life ), all your 1/1 creatures become 5/5!!!!  So the OP potential here is great.  Would probably need to restrict it to :life creatures (which is what I think you were intending all along.)

Nop. The only creature that would give bonus to skeletons would be from death element, like a Ivory Dragon. Same rule for every element.
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Infectoplasm is my favorite of these.  Like Virus meets Antimatter, but would be more effective when played on low attack creatures since you'd get healing sooner.  Antimatter for dragons, Infectoplasm for fodder.  Plus since it gets better with each turn, it'd be crushing to get this out in early game play on a lowly creature (like an unprotected Otyugh!)

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Mimicat seems too complicated to be useful:
1. Draw Infectoplasm and play it
2. Activate  Multiplication
3. Draw Mimicat and play it
4. Activate Mimic

Moreover, if I'm reading it right, you get an Infectoplasm back at some point after activating Mimic?  That seems to be too much--like getting your Virus back after killing the opponent's creature.

Oh yeah, I made a mistake in the example. you're supposed to get the creature with it's initial status.
The thing about the infectoplasm coming back: I thought it would be an good compensation after having the trouble of even using the mimic skill after all the complicated stuff
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Reunion tree is a good thought, but not sure what kind of deck it's built for.  You'd already need  :entropy for the Druid/Elf/Mutate, so it wouldn't help a mono  :life deck.  The exception is the case where opponent mutates your creature--but even then, they don't use to improve your deck, and Mutate leaves 1/3 dead, 1/3 Abomination and 1/3 mutant.   It eliminate the need for  :water with Forest Spirits, but not sure that's worth taking a space in your deck to gain the ability to use 1  :life instead of 1  :water .

I thought about a  :entropy:life deck combination with this one. Mutating photons and stuff and getting to use theirs skills with your emerald pillars.

Thanks for the comments. I'm happier now .D

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Re: Blood Pact, Reunion Tree, Infectoplasm and Mimicat. We need more life combos :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3085.msg26323#msg26323
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 12:40:24 pm »
reunion tree is like infinit quanta, since leaf dragon got photosintesys that can be used multiple times a turn and the cost is changed to  :life and it produces  :life :life you only need one way to use it, like splashing air and geting a ffq with infinit mana you don't need so many cards, or splashing entropy and using fallen druid.

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Re: Blood Pact, Reunion Tree, Infectoplasm and Mimicat. We need more life combos :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3085.msg26382#msg26382
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 05:28:30 pm »
I don't like the first 3 because they feel un-like life element.

Reunion tree is broken because of Rustler.

I don't have any advice to give on any of these except that I would boycott them in a vote. Can you give some background to these why they would be Life creatures and not Fire, Death and Entropy Cards?

I'm actually in a state of Meh regarding these cards and I apologise that I can't find any advice to give. They just all seem like they miss the life feel all together.

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Re: Blood Pact, Reunion Tree, Infectoplasm and Mimicat. We need more life combos :D https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3085.msg26386#msg26386
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 05:44:10 pm »
I don't like the first 3 because they feel un-like life element.

Reunion tree is broken because of Rustler.

I don't have any advice to give on any of these except that I would boycott them in a vote. Can you give some background to these why they would be Life creatures and not Fire, Death and Entropy Cards?

I'm actually in a state of Meh regarding these cards and I apologise that I can't find any advice to give. They just all seem like they miss the life feel all together.

Blood Pact sacrifice the life of one creature and give this life energy to others...

Infectoplasm is an microorganism. Life started here

Can't think of a very good reason regarding Mimicat besides of the fact it's a cat D:
I really prefer my old creation -Copycat- though.

About the Tree... yeah, it's broken now D:

 

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