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Black Dog | Black Dog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21997.msg282123#msg282123
« on: March 03, 2011, 01:58:34 am »
NAME:
Black Dog
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|N
TEXT:
Omen: N = the total amount of damage you will take at the end of your opponent's turn
NAME:
Black Dog
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5|N
TEXT:
Omen: N = the total amount of damage you will take at the end of your opponent's turn
ART:
Needed
IDEA:
Nepycros (Inspiration from EmeraldTiger)
NOTES:
EmeraldTiger wanted me to make a submission for the Mythology competition (probably closed by now), but I waited until now for no real reason. It's basically what it looks like. In several places, mythology will associate the Black Dog with death, so it stands to reason that it should be in the... :death element!
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Re: Black Dog | Black Dog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21997.msg282126#msg282126
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 02:03:01 am »
Interesting idea, but seems hard to program. Especially because playing a shield would mess with the opponent's damage. Also, it seems like it could become OP with acceleration, overdrive, and Gravity force.

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Re: Black Dog | Black Dog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21997.msg282131#msg282131
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 02:07:13 am »
Interesting idea, but seems hard to program. Especially because playing a shield would mess with the opponent's damage. Also, it seems like it could become OP with acceleration, overdrive, and Gravity force.
Not hard to program at all. The game already does it! Ever see the little yellow splash on your health? That's the calculation for your damage. The same needs to be applied to this card, is all!

Gravity Force and Overdrive are other problems... Perhaps Immaterial? After all, if you take 0 damage, this card dies. Damage vs. Dead dog gives a whole new strategy.
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Re: Black Dog | Black Dog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21997.msg282150#msg282150
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 02:27:00 am »
Interesting idea, but seems hard to program. Especially because playing a shield would mess with the opponent's damage. Also, it seems like it could become OP with acceleration, overdrive, and Gravity force.
Not hard to program at all. The game already does it! Ever see the little yellow splash on your health? That's the calculation for your damage. The same needs to be applied to this card, is all!

Gravity Force and Overdrive are other problems... Perhaps Immaterial? After all, if you take 0 damage, this card dies. Damage vs. Dead dog gives a whole new strategy.
The problem is that stuff of your "next turn". What if your opponent plays a Sundial next turn? No way to know it (unless you're at PvP1 with an opponent without cards in its hand nor Time Quanta).
Whatever, you could take in account the yellow bar, but it works horribly bad. It doesn't take in account Momentum, "Miss" Shields (Phase/Dimmensional/Dusk Mantle/Fog Shield/Bonewall), Adrenaline nor Antimattered creatures. I think that should be fixed before this can come to reality.
All in all, I like the ability, but dunno how it would be useful. May need some help in imagining one possible scenario of its use.

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Re: Black Dog | Black Dog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21997.msg282154#msg282154
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 02:30:17 am »
Interesting idea, but seems hard to program. Especially because playing a shield would mess with the opponent's damage. Also, it seems like it could become OP with acceleration, overdrive, and Gravity force.
Not hard to program at all. The game already does it! Ever see the little yellow splash on your health? That's the calculation for your damage. The same needs to be applied to this card, is all!

Gravity Force and Overdrive are other problems... Perhaps Immaterial? After all, if you take 0 damage, this card dies. Damage vs. Dead dog gives a whole new strategy.
The problem is that stuff of your "next turn". What if your opponent plays a Sundial next turn? No way to know it (unless you're at PvP1 with an opponent without cards in its hand nor Time Quanta).
Whatever, you could take in account the yellow bar, but it works horribly bad. It doesn't take in account Momentum, "Miss" Shields (Phase/Dimmensional/Dusk Mantle/Fog Shield/Bonewall), Adrenaline nor Antimattered creatures. I think that should be fixed before this can come to reality.
All in all, I like the ability, but dunno how it would be useful. May need some help in imagining one possible scenario of its use.
I for one wouldn't mind taking quite a bit of damage, then laying out a TU and some catapults. Understandably, that's a trio, but bone wall makes everything better, right?
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Re: Black Dog | Black Dog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21997.msg282171#msg282171
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 02:45:03 am »
I for one wouldn't mind taking quite a bit of damage, then laying out a TU and some catapults. Understandably, that's a trio, but bone wall makes everything better, right?
True. Specially if Catapult triggers death effects (does it?).

Whatever, just try to find a way in which the card could calculate its hp at the end of your turn and it'll be OK.

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Re: Black Dog | Black Dog https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21997.msg282173#msg282173
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 02:46:45 am »
Do you have any reference, so people can see where your idea comes from? nvm i found it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_dog_(ghost)
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