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Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1273975#msg1273975
« on: January 26, 2018, 02:08:30 am »

NAME:
Bird Dragon
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 3
TEXT:
Bird Dragon:
 Non-airborne creatures may not target this creature.
 Gain +1/+2 for each 15 :life quanta in your pool.
NAME:
Bird Dragon
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 3
TEXT:
Bird Dragon:
 Non-airborne creatures may not target this creature.
 Gain +1/+2 for each 15 :life quanta in your pool.

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« Last Edit: February 05, 2018, 10:20:25 pm by Vangelios »
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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1273984#msg1273984
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 06:43:49 am »
immune to spells?
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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1273991#msg1273991
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 11:48:49 am »
immune to spells?
Not, immune just to non-fly creatures like Iridium, Squids, Nymphs.....
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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1273992#msg1273992
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 11:57:18 am »
Then its more like "creatures with abilities require the airborne passive to choose this creature as target"
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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1273993#msg1273993
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 12:05:30 pm »
Then its more like "creatures with abilities require the airborne passive to choose this creature as target"
Yes, but your text is too long, in card games this things need to be more simplified
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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1273995#msg1273995
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 12:14:08 pm »
Why Life instead of Air?
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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1273996#msg1273996
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 12:35:52 pm »
Why Life instead of Air?
Lol  why  :life need helps to be a competitive element  :P but I agree with you :air should be more sense
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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1274015#msg1274015
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2018, 03:31:39 am »
Suggestion for description:

Bird Dragon can not be targeted by non-airborne cratures. Gains +1|+2 for every 15 :life you own.

Interesting. Basically, mixing  :air Wings:aether Immortal, and the bolt mechanic?

Pretty cheap, at that. Maybe have it at 7/6 cost? Considering this is :life, though, maybe the creature is intended to be cheap.
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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1274017#msg1274017
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2018, 03:45:31 am »
is an interesting mix of already existing abilities

if unupped gotp is 7/4 for 6  :time , toadfish is 6/4 for 5  :water , 6/3 for 6  :life and a very good ability should be fine for being in :life
maybe the upped one is cheap, but for 5  :life it will be pretty meh

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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1274021#msg1274021
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2018, 07:39:36 am »
"Can't be targeted by non-flying creatures."
Or, alternatively:
"Can only be targeted by flying creatures."

15 quanta feels a bit excessive; I'd try 10.

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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1274023#msg1274023
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2018, 09:32:12 am »
"Can't be targeted by non-flying creatures."
Or, alternatively:
"Can only be targeted by flying creatures."

15 quanta feels a bit excessive; I'd try 10.
But "Can only be targeted by flying creatures." does the card OP because I can't use spells against.
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Re: Bird Dragon | Bird Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65680.msg1274031#msg1274031
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2018, 05:01:30 pm »
If you compare upgraded bird dragon to other upgraded creatures that cost 3-5 quantum you'll find stat to cost wise upped bird dragon is weak. Then you take into account it's skill maybe it's too cheap. That's a big maybe because not too many decks have creatures based cc and the stat growth thing is weak. After finally taking account that it's a life creatures and life creatures are supposed to be have good stat to cost ratio in my opinion upped bird dragon has a perfectly balanced cost.

 

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