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Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg319830#msg319830
« on: April 25, 2011, 09:12:32 pm »
NAME:
Unforgiven One
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
:light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
-4 | 2
TEXT:
Vampire
When Unforgiven One is healed by you it inverts it's attack.
NAME:
Unforgiven One
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
2
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
-4 | 2
TEXT:
Vampire
When Unforgiven One is healed by you it inverts it's attack.
ART:
Krava
IDEA:
Zblader, inspired by Emeraldtiger and Oldtrees.
NOTES:
The card intentionally starts out with negative attack, to prompt you to use the ability ASAP or suffer healing your opponent while taking damage.
Vampire is passive for this creature.
SERIES:

NAME:
Unforgiven One
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
:light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
-4 | 2
TEXT:
Vampire
:light :light : Redeem - Unforgiven One's attack is inverted.
NAME:
Unforgiven One
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
2
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
-4 | 2
TEXT:
Vampire
:light :light : Redeem - Unforgiven One's attack is inverted.
ART:
Krava
IDEA:
Zblader, inspired by Emeraldtiger and Oldtrees.
NOTES:
The card intentionally starts out with negative attack, to prompt you to use the ability ASAP or suffer healing your opponent while taking damage.
Vampire is passive for this creature.
SERIES:

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Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg319843#msg319843
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2011, 09:23:39 pm »
why does the upgraded one cost any quanta when the skill obviously still needs :light  ?
is it because you want it to make synergies with others?
(erhemm, vampire from :darkness)
A good concept, redempt being forgiven, gets its strength back.
though how is vampire associated with a light creature?

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Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg319857#msg319857
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2011, 09:34:56 pm »
why does the upgraded one cost any quanta when the skill obviously still needs :light  ?
is it because you want it to make synergies with others?
(erhemm, vampire from :darkness)
A good concept, redempt being forgiven, gets its strength back.
though how is vampire associated with a light creature?
Yes, random quantum is to increase versatility and synergy with other elements.
Think of this card as a captured vampire. It hurts you by rebelling until it sees that there is no way out/decides to work with you.

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Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg319965#msg319965
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2011, 12:16:29 am »
Instead of Redempt, it should be Redeem.

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Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg320034#msg320034
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2011, 01:35:45 am »
Instead of Redempt, it should be Redeem.
erm, Redemption comes from redeem, its basically the same thing.
its the act of redeeming, so renaming to redeem wouldn't make much of a difference.

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Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg320064#msg320064
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2011, 01:57:00 am »
Instead of Redempt, it should be Redeem.
erm, Redemption comes from redeem, its basically the same thing.
its the act of redeeming, so renaming to redeem wouldn't make much of a difference.
Proper English is a difference. Redeem is the verb. Redempt is not a word.
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Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg320071#msg320071
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2011, 02:07:21 am »
Instead of Redempt, it should be Redeem.
erm, Redemption comes from redeem, its basically the same thing.
its the act of redeeming, so renaming to redeem wouldn't make much of a difference.
Proper English is a difference. Redeem is the verb. Redempt is not a word.
I mentioned Redemption, i assumed Z used Redempt because of card space

Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg320124#msg320124
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2011, 03:05:09 am »
Vampire has never been seen as a passive ability; in fact, Liquid Shadow replaces the current active ability, and Momentum, though an active status and thus removable, will create an active ability on an ability-less creature.  I doubt putting two actives on one card is a good idea.  :P

Alternate idea: perhaps this creature could begin with only Vampire, and when targeted by the Heal ability or Holy Light spell, would invert its attack?  That would not require an ability, active or passive, just an edit to the card text - and it would create more use for two aspects of Light that are currently less commonly used.

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Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg320130#msg320130
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 03:13:17 am »
Or it could start vanilla and have an ability that gives it +8|0 and Vampire.
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Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg320284#msg320284
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 12:43:49 pm »
I would think that given the nature of the creature that it should start as  :darkness, even though you intend for it to be used in  :light decks.  Just the idea of a  :light Vampire bothers me a bit.

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Re: Unforgiven One | Unforgiven One https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25072.msg320864#msg320864
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2011, 01:46:41 am »
Interesting suggestions Johann and Oldtrees. I'm considering going with invert attack when you heal it, because that would help to indirectly buff Guardian Angel and Holy Light.

Corrected the grammatical error.

EDIT : New effect added.

 

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