Behemoth|Overlord Series - remixed.

[artimies7]

Alright, apparently I got something wrong with my first Behemoth Series. So, second try.

With the Behemoth plans, there are 2 parts. One, the Behemoths are dual types with one element for the cost and bazaar sorting and another element for the ability.
It's probably not going to be a rare. Or anything but a creature.

Types: : Quantic Behemoth
            / : Planetary Behemoth
            / : Storm Behemoth
            / : Onyx Behemoth
            / : Mystic Behemoth
            / : Photosynthetic Behemoth (Too long?)
            / : Wildfire Behemoth
Should these elements be together? Can't put them elsewhere. Sorry, I didn't notice that I hadn't put and  in, and they don't really go together.

Got an Other Behemoth! Booyah!

They all cost 6 to play.
All names change to Overlord when upgraded.


And the stats.
Atk|Def: starts 4|4, goes to 5|5 when upgraded.
Costs: 6, 6 upgraded.

And the second part. The ability is that for creature N, (it varies for each Behemoth), it costs  to add +1|+1 (or +1|+1, +2|+2 upped for the Storm Behemoth) per pillar of some variable, like 'your mark' or 'three random clusters on the opponent's field'. See number 2 below for other possibilities.
The cost goes down to  when upgraded, except for the Storm Behemoth due to added bonuses.
(Happy now, OldTrees? 8))

Each Behemoth has a few variables.
1: Who is affected. It could be the Behemoth itself, negative bonuses for your opponent, or all totally random.
2: Where the effect numbers come from. That could be your pillars, your opponents pillars, all pillars of a certain element, the number of creatures, the number of spells cast, or the HP lost, remaining, or being taken this turn. Anything works.
3: Time lapses. This one is sorta optional, seeing as it doesn't necessarily need a lapse in how long it lasts or waits to take effect. Your call. Time might require it though.

Ta-Da! I gotta go, but I'll update the table and stuff later. Ok, updated the table for the Planetary Behemoth, since that's the most straightforward one.

UPDATE: you can now find the Planetary Behemoth in its own thread! http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22612.new.html#new (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22612.new.html#new)
P.S. This is more for my own benefit than anything else, but I have already submitted this to the crucible.
UPDATE OF THE UPDATE: I got the Storm Behemoth up too! http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22645.new.html#new (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22645.new.html#new)
Submitted! :{D Mustachio Guy!
YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Onyx Behemoth!!! http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22790.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22790.0.html)
ONE MORE UPDATE: Mystic Behemoth. Woohoo! http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23076.msg313229#msg313229 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23076.msg313229#msg313229)
UPDATE AGAIN: Void Behemoth, courtesy of Zblader!
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25074.msg342220#msg342220 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25074.msg342220#msg342220)
PENTULTIMATE UPDATE: Quantic Behemoth! Yay! http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23971.msg327721#msg327721 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23971.msg327721#msg327721)
Submitted.

[OldTrees]

You need to learn how to edit/modify your posts. This prevents double posting and thread duplication.
Click "modify" to modify a post

Names:
Planetary fits very well.
Storm fits but depending on the storm Aether might fit better than Water
Reaper doesn't fit Darkness in my mind but an argument might be possible.
Mystic works well.
Blaze works well.

All in all the Darkness|Death one doesn't fit very well but the rest are great.

Since the stats, casting cost and activation cost are constant when upgraded the ability must improve with each upgrade.

The stats, casting cost and activation cost call for the skill to be worth 4.4|5.9
You do not need to worry about Electrum costs those are determined by the casting cost.

[artimies7]

Worked on it more, OldTrees. I will now never duplicate a thread again.

[OldTrees]

And the stats.
Atk|Def: starts 4|4, Change to 5|5 when upgraded.
Costs: 6 unless changed, 5 upgraded.

And the second part. The ability is that for creature X, (it varies for each Behemoth), it costs  to add +1|+1 (or +1|+2, +2|+2 upped for the Storm Behemoth) per X.
The cost goes down to  when upgraded, except for the Storm Behemoth due to added bonuses.
(Happy now, OldTrees? 8))

Close but not quite. It would have worked before but now the upgrade (+1 attack, -1 casting cost, -1 activation cost, +1hp) is too large hence the ability would have to be a weaker version on the upgraded.

I would suggest having the upgrade be (+1 attack, -1 activation cost)
[except if the ability improves like you plan for storm in which cast the upgrade will depend on how much the ability improves and might even cause a cost increase.]

So (except for when the ability improves)
Casting Cost: 6|6
Attack: 4|5
HP: 4|4
Activation Cost: 3|2

This would leave the ability to be able to be a 4.4 quanta value. (This means nothing to you artimies7 but rather is a note for myself and some others.)

Now to identify the Xs.

[artimies7]

I'll get right on it. And I'll define the X's too.

Thanks for the help, btw.

[artimies7]

Ok, OldTrees, how's this doing?

Reaper doesn't fit Darkness in my mind but an argument might be possible.

The actual Grim Reaper wears a hood that's black, plus he's just the general symbol for everything dark and deadly in the real world.

[OldTrees]

Ok, OldTrees, how's this doing?

I think the planatary behemoth is ready for its own thread so it can receive more than just my advice.
I think the current X for  is near the 4.4 range. (I assumed you meant pillar or pendulum?)

Reaper doesn't fit Darkness in my mind but an argument might be possible.

The actual Grim Reaper wears a hood that's black, plus he's just the general symbol for everything dark and deadly in the real world.

Much more is dark than that which is deadly. The darkest things are non lethal.

[artimies7]

Totally meant pillar or pendulum. Getting right on it.

And I couldn't think of any other name for the  / Behemoth. Ideas?

[EmeraldTiger]

Night Soul, Obsidian Bone, Shadow Corpse/Core

[artimies7]

Night Soul, Obsidian Bone, Shadow Corpse/Core

Obsidian Behemoth sounds good. Obsidian Behemoth, anyone?

[EmeraldTiger]

I was thinking...

[XYTWO]

Having two adjectives makes it sound weird. Why break the chain of one-adjective names? I say take one or the other.