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how should this card be modified?

decrease stats
6 (66.7%)
increase cost
3 (33.3%)
fine as is
0 (0%)
other (please specify)
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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083469#msg1083469
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2013, 05:43:32 pm »
Make this like 9|5.

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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083501#msg1083501
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2013, 08:09:31 pm »
I agree that you should add additional costs to the initial cost due to versatility. I advocate adding +2 basic quanta to both the unupped and upped card costs.

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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083527#msg1083527
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2013, 11:45:35 pm »
alright, so most people are asking for it to be nerfed attack ways...

9/5 seems the most reasonable option due to its versatility and to keep it from being overused. 9/6 would have too good synergy with rage pot while keeping the mono IMO. the upped stats though... 11/6?

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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083558#msg1083558
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2013, 06:03:20 am »
How about we increase the card cost to 12 :rainbow for the unupped version and 14 :rainbow for the upped one?

That way, it would become a slight deterrent to those who wish to compensate for the weaknesses of their element's true dragon (like Gravity and Fire)

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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083561#msg1083561
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2013, 06:22:55 am »
alright, so most people are asking for it to be nerfed attack ways...

9/5 seems the most reasonable option due to its versatility and to keep it from being overused. 9/6 would have too good synergy with rage pot while keeping the mono IMO. the upped stats though... 11/6?

Please don't. If it's weaker than all the other elemental dragons, then what's the point of using it? Decks rarely need 6+ dragons anyways, so there would be no point of adding it to the game.

Again, I suggest leaving the stats as and having a cost increase.

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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083567#msg1083567
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2013, 07:27:22 am »
Well it still does more dmg than stone dragon or colossal dragon and has more hp than crimson dragon; and dont forget that it has otk potential if combined with fractal and 4 SoFrees. 9/5 for 10 :underworld and 11/6 for 12 :underworld and an upgrade seem fine to me. Also it can be used in a deck that tends to overflow on quanta.
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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083599#msg1083599
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2013, 01:04:13 pm »
9|6 is basically "screw you azure dragon"

So I think 9|5 is best.

Pineapple, why would they use it if the cost was jacked up?

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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083614#msg1083614
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2013, 03:08:30 pm »
Well it still does more dmg than stone dragon or colossal dragon and has more hp than crimson dragon; and dont forget that it has otk potential if combined with fractal and 4 SoFrees. 9/5 for 10 :underworld and 11/6 for 12 :underworld and an upgrade seem fine to me. Also it can be used in a deck that tends to overflow on quanta.

That's a good point, you can use it with fractal much more easily than other dragons if you are fueling your deck with QT and SN. It looks like a good finisher on this light.
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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083615#msg1083615
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2013, 03:22:50 pm »
I think this card is ready to go. Only thing left is that the art should change. Just do some random doodling with paint or something and this is ready for the crucible.
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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083791#msg1083791
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2013, 04:35:46 am »
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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083857#msg1083857
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2013, 01:25:49 pm »
Pineapple, why would they use it if the cost was jacked up?

Because then it wouldn't be absolutely inferior to another card for 10 out of 12 elements. At least, with a higher cost and higher stats, it'll fill in a niche in the game. Decreasing the stats would be like suggesting a Seraph without the lower cost and unique ability.

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Re: Basic Dragon | Basic Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50113.msg1083865#msg1083865
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2013, 02:24:58 pm »
I have an idea! How about a card that costs 9 fire, and has 10|1 stats! It'll fill a niche between the dragon and pheonix!

 

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