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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186564#msg1186564
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2015, 10:51:34 am »
Um April fool's day was 14 days ago. Maybe you should post in humor.

But anyway, assuming this is a serious card idea. Whose pillars absorb quanta? You opponent's yours? And from whose sides? There's a reason why the notes section can expand to great sizes.
All pillars and pendulums equals to both players.
so yeah, you cant spam Internet Bills using a rainbow deck to destroy mono deck right in the beginning.
Are you planning on keeping this card as immaturely themed as it is right now and acting like first few criticisms on your card didn't exist? Because if you use "taking card making seriously is a joke" as an excuse for careless designing, we shouldn't be giving you critique on this card, serious or funny.
im taking critiques as Internet Bills is not popular and that i should abandon it and not post to crucible.
and im taking feedbacks/positive comments is popular and that i should update it and post to crucible.

im doing updates only after i post my last card idea for efficiency/save time.
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As for the card, reversing how pillars works is interesting. Now make it an actual card so I don't feel like I'm talking to a 10 year old.

Don't put words in people's mouths and assume people immediately think your card is "popular" or "not popular"; rather, learn to ditch the parts of your card that don't work while improving the ones that do. People would like you to balance the mechanic better while getting rid of the ridiculously immature flavor if they wish to take it seriously. This doesn't mean people think your card is good or bad, it means exactly what they're saying - they want you to change it.

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186567#msg1186567
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2015, 11:17:24 am »
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As for the card, reversing how pillars works is interesting. Now make it an actual card so I don't feel like I'm talking to a 10 year old.

Don't put words in people's mouths and assume people immediately think your card is "popular" or "not popular"; rather, learn to ditch the parts of your card that don't work while improving the ones that do. People would like you to balance the mechanic better while getting rid of the ridiculously immature flavor if they wish to take it seriously. This doesn't mean people think your card is good or bad, it means exactly what they're saying - they want you to change it.

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Are you planning on keeping this card as immaturely themed as it is right now and acting like first few criticisms on your card didn't exist? Because if you use "taking card making seriously is a joke" as an excuse for careless designing, we shouldn't be giving you critique on this card, serious or funny.
this forces me to reply quickly as i dun want commenters to think that their comments are not valued or important,
and a quick reply will let me make careless mistakes like wrongly reading or misunderstanding your comments.

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im doing updates only after i post my last card idea for efficiency/save time.
My updates do include flavour or anything else.

And taking my time to read the comments and feedbacks
while updating my cards after i post my last card idea
will make me make less careless mistakes.

im not really a elements pro nor good in mathematics
so i cant give you properly balanced card right at the start.
i will just lamely debuff or buff my cards based on how people are reacting to my cards.

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186568#msg1186568
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2015, 11:26:22 am »
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this forces me to reply quickly as i dun want commenters to think that their comments are not valued or important,
and a quick reply will let me make careless mistakes like wrongly reading or misunderstanding your comments.
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so i cant give you properly balanced card right at the start.
i will just lamely debuff or buff my cards based on how people are reacting to my cards.
I'm not asking for a balanced card right away, nor am I asking for a response immediately after I post something.  My problem stems not from the fact that you replied quickly or slowly, but rather that you seemed to reply only later feedback while seemingly passing over critical earlier feedback.

I'll drop this here as I feel my point has been made, but at the same time I would prefer not to create a misunderstanding.

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186569#msg1186569
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2015, 11:28:05 am »
im not really a elements pro nor good in mathematics
so i cant give you properly balanced card right at the start.
i will just lamely debuff or buff my cards based on how people are reacting to my cards.

Even experienced card designers can't give a perfectly balanced card from the beginning, that's what this entire system of Crucible, Forge, and Armory are for. However, you could at least make an attempt to see if it looks realistic and base costs around how much of an effect the card would have on the game. For example, your 15 quanta cost dragon series was rather clunky and awkward, several of the ideas could've been fantastic if they were sized down a bit (like Archdragon).
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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186570#msg1186570
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2015, 11:34:50 am »
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this forces me to reply quickly as i dun want commenters to think that their comments are not valued or important,
and a quick reply will let me make careless mistakes like wrongly reading or misunderstanding your comments.
...
so i cant give you properly balanced card right at the start.
i will just lamely debuff or buff my cards based on how people are reacting to my cards.
I'm not asking for a balanced card right away, nor am I asking for a response immediately after I post something.  My problem stems not from the fact that you replied quickly or slowly, but rather that you seemed to reply only later feedback while seemingly passing over critical earlier feedback.

I'll drop this here as I feel my point has been made, but at the same time I would prefer not to create a misunderstanding.

im guessing you mean the following:
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Quote from: eaglgenes101 on Today at 05:52:03 AM
Um April fool's day was 14 days ago. Maybe you should post in humor.

But anyway, assuming this is a serious card idea. Whose pillars absorb quanta? You opponent's yours? And from whose sides? There's a reason why the notes section can expand to great sizes.
All pillars and pendulums equals to both players.
so yeah, you cant spam Internet Bills using a rainbow deck to destroy mono deck right in the beginning.

i react quickly to comments that shows that there are misunderstanding of how my cards works,
i might react to suggestions that im will be using for my future updates. (as i might not use their suggestions in the end.)
sorry that im not reacting to all posts just to save my time.

everyone will be able to comments/feedbacks again on my new updates on my last card idea thread.

 

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