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Atrophy | Atrophy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186512#msg1186512
« on: April 16, 2015, 02:39:34 am »
NAME:
Atrophy
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
5 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Your opponent pillars and pendulums absorb quanta instead for 1 turn.
NAME:
Atrophy
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Your opponent pillars and pendulums absorb quanta instead for 1 turn.

ART:
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IDEA:

NOTES:
Entropy is the perfect element for stalling for opponent
as it have Antimatter, Pandemonium, Discord,
Butterfly Effect, Maxwell's Demon, Dissipation Shield.

No no no, not yet.
im gonna add on top to the powerful stall cards,
Atrophy, for 5 :entropy,

You cause your opponent pillars and pendulums to absorb quanta instead for 1 turn,
if he or she have 5 pillars, she absorb 5 quanta
and doesn't earns his or her 5 quanta for the turn,

Meaning you spent 5 quanta to reduce 10 quanta from opponent,
and a chance to lock opponent for 1 turn.

(revised on 30/04/15)
SERIES:

previous Internet Bills
Spoiler for Hidden:
NAME:
Internet Bills
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
12
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All pillars and pendulums absorb quanta instead for 2 turns.
12 : Refresh Internet Bills.
NAME:
Internet Bills
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
12
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
All pillars and pendulums absorb quanta instead for 2 turns.
12 : Refresh Internet Bills.

ART:
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IDEA:

NOTES:
Refresh Internet Bills means recasting Internet Bills,
restoring the 2 turns duration of effects.
SERIES:
All comments are welcomed.
I will update my cards only after i post my last card idea.
Everyone will be able to comments/feedbacks again on my new updates on my last card idea thread.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 06:38:06 am by foxrain4 »

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186513#msg1186513
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2015, 02:41:32 am »
Can I buy pizza with this? :D

(Seriously, though, are these cards joke cards or serious ideas?)

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186514#msg1186514
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2015, 02:47:01 am »
Can I buy pizza with this? :D

(Seriously, though, are these cards joke cards or serious ideas?)
i dun take card making seriously, i think the chances of cards getting into the game are too slim
that taking card making seriously is a joke.

whether these cards are jokes or serious ideas depends on the comments and feedbacks,
i will update the cards based on the comments and feedbacks after i post my last card idea,
i only have less than 30 card ideas left.

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186515#msg1186515
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2015, 02:51:12 am »
i dun take card making seriously, i think the chances of cards getting into the game are too slim
that taking card making seriously is a joke.
If that's the attitude you approach game design by, you're not going to get anywhere as a designer, EtG or not.
whether these cards are jokes or serious ideas depends on the comments and feedbacks,
i will update the cards based on the comments and feedbacks after i post my last card idea,
Your intent for a card should be clear from the start because some of these cards are starting to sound like they belong more in Humor than actual CI&A. Feedback is going to be very different based on whether you want the card to be taken seriously or humorously - presenting in this vague way and "letting people decide" just shows that you're extremely lazy and that you don't really care about what this section could actually teach you.

Oh, and the humor section is here, in case you didn't know where to look. :)
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 02:59:48 am by Zblader »

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186516#msg1186516
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2015, 02:59:29 am »
Seconding everything Zblader just said, I find your lack of decision on whether or not these cards are serious to be disturbing.
If half of the past cards you made are serious, than you may not understand what cards actually pass as jovial and what cards don't.
Looking at this card, It's obviously a joke. You named it "Internet Bills" and your last card was named "Desynchronize". Sad to say, I just associate you with joke cards now.
I mean, that's all you've recently been making. So unfortunately, when you actually make a serious card, there's a good chance no one will see it as such.

Basically, if you aren't sure whether or not a card you make is serious, move it to the humor section. Better safe than sorry.

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186520#msg1186520
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2015, 03:32:39 am »
Here are three important statements to learn:

Funny that is serious is funny.
Funny that is not serious is stupid.
Stupid is not funny.

You cannot make a funny card, without taking it seriously.

Take this card. Why is it called internet bills? How do internet bills make mages lose quanta when they should gain it instead? Surely bills tax, instead? Why is it elementless? Why does it need refreshing every two turns?
All of these questions in my head don't make this joke funny. It makes it stupid.

To put this in Magic speak:

Spoiler for Hidden:
This is funny. If you get the reference, anyways. It clicks - Jace, the mind sculptor, is an asshole. Everyone hates him and loves to hate on him and loves to comment on how overpowered he is. It's funny.

This is what you are doing. It's not funny. It's stupid.






As for the card, reversing how pillars works is interesting. Now make it an actual card so I don't feel like I'm talking to a 10 year old.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 03:38:31 am by Frozengaia »

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186533#msg1186533
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2015, 05:52:03 am »
Um April fool's day was 14 days ago. Maybe you should post in humor.

But anyway, assuming this is a serious card idea. Whose pillars absorb quanta? You opponent's yours? And from whose sides? There's a reason why the notes section can expand to great sizes.
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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186536#msg1186536
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2015, 05:57:32 am »
Um April fool's day was 14 days ago. Maybe you should post in humor.

But anyway, assuming this is a serious card idea. Whose pillars absorb quanta? You opponent's yours? And from whose sides? There's a reason why the notes section can expand to great sizes.
All pillars and pendulums equals to both players.
so yeah, you cant spam Internet Bills using a rainbow deck to destroy mono deck right in the beginning.

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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186538#msg1186538
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2015, 06:09:03 am »
-snip-
As for the card, reversing how pillars works is interesting.
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Indeed. So a sort of anti-nova would be possible. Will probably make one today
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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186555#msg1186555
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2015, 08:25:43 am »
 My problem is, this card can be seriously abused by Novabows and Immobows. Novae and Immolation allows your deck to be pillarless and they both produce 12 quanta or more when used, enough to pay for the playing cost or refreshing cost of 12 :rainbow.
 This card is a full denial that equals mass EQ/Trident spamming or Devtal's/Devtosis' Pest spamming against any pillar-based deck that faces a pillarless rainbow rush. In other words, if pillarless rainbow rushes were insane before, with Internet Bills they will be FG-like! :o
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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186556#msg1186556
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2015, 08:27:52 am »
Um April fool's day was 14 days ago. Maybe you should post in humor.

But anyway, assuming this is a serious card idea. Whose pillars absorb quanta? You opponent's yours? And from whose sides? There's a reason why the notes section can expand to great sizes.
All pillars and pendulums equals to both players.
so yeah, you cant spam Internet Bills using a rainbow deck to destroy mono deck right in the beginning.
Are you planning on keeping this card as immaturely themed as it is right now and acting like first few criticisms on your card didn't exist? Because if you use "taking card making seriously is a joke" as an excuse for careless designing, we shouldn't be giving you critique on this card, serious or funny.
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Re: Internet Bills | Internet Bills https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=58152.msg1186563#msg1186563
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2015, 10:44:34 am »
Um April fool's day was 14 days ago. Maybe you should post in humor.

But anyway, assuming this is a serious card idea. Whose pillars absorb quanta? You opponent's yours? And from whose sides? There's a reason why the notes section can expand to great sizes.
All pillars and pendulums equals to both players.
so yeah, you cant spam Internet Bills using a rainbow deck to destroy mono deck right in the beginning.
Are you planning on keeping this card as immaturely themed as it is right now and acting like first few criticisms on your card didn't exist? Because if you use "taking card making seriously is a joke" as an excuse for careless designing, we shouldn't be giving you critique on this card, serious or funny.
im taking critiques as Internet Bills is not popular and that i should abandon it and not post to crucible.
and im taking feedbacks/positive comments is popular and that i should update it and post to crucible.

im doing updates only after i post my last card idea for efficiency/save time.

 

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