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« on: November 20, 2013, 01:00:08 am »
NAME:
Ashen Sapling
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 1
TEXT:
If :fire quanta was used to play this card, this gets +4/+0.
NAME:
Ashen Sapling
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 1
TEXT:
If :fire quanta was used to play this card, this gets +6/+0.

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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1110579#msg1110579
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2013, 02:29:19 am »
Subtly brilliant. A  :rainbow cost card free from abuse, and even in a mono fire deck it's more or less balanced. My only gripe is the element. Aside from the name, it has no ties to life. It doesn't cost life quanta or have any connection to life; it should really be classified as a fire card.

EDIT: On second thought...in a mono-fire, this thing pretty much overshadows phoenix and lava golem, albeit it lacks their abilities. How much do you think those abilities are worth? Do *you* find the card balanced as is?
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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1110616#msg1110616
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2013, 04:35:31 am »
Another mtg port... The mechanic is fine, but I don't see the connection between it and the theme.
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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1110691#msg1110691
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2013, 06:10:42 am »
Huh?  This wasn't a[n intentional] MtG port...

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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1110775#msg1110775
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2013, 07:31:52 pm »
I hate it when I'm accused of stealing ideas from other games... I've never even played other card games.

Interesting this one is. Hope to explore parallel ideas.
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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1110791#msg1110791
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 08:11:24 pm »
I hate it when I'm accused of stealing ideas from other games... I've never even played other card games.

Interesting this one is. Hope to explore parallel ideas.
It wasn't meant as an accusation, and it wasn't taken as one.
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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1110792#msg1110792
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2013, 08:16:46 pm »
I was merely suggesting that it could be interpreted as a accusation, and offering sympathy in the case of the suggested bias.
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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1110820#msg1110820
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2013, 10:21:02 pm »
What mtg port is it?

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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1111047#msg1111047
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 06:48:59 pm »
What mtg port is it?

I think it refers to this cycle...

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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1111060#msg1111060
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2013, 08:10:34 pm »
There are tons of cards with that mechanic in MtG, yeah.

I don't find this card to be interesting though. It's a forced combo par excellence.

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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1111108#msg1111108
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2013, 11:56:50 pm »
To consider balance...

With Nova or Immolation, I feel the chance of it not touching :fire to summon it makes it kind of a sense of balance.

In a strict MonoFire without Immolation and this splashed in, It becomes a 3 for 5|1 or 4 for 7|1, making it comparable to Golem and Phoenix respectably.  However, I feel those two are still usable since they have a means of sustaining themselves.

Should this have it as a passive ability?  So if lobo'd, it drops to 1|1?

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Re: Ashen Sapling | Ashen Sapling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52441.msg1111116#msg1111116
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2013, 12:14:38 am »
Making it passive seems like a good way to balance it; right now it's just too strong compared to Phoenix. Yes, I know Phoenix is practically immortal, but still.

 

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