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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1020694#msg1020694
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2012, 09:44:02 pm »
Then make that specifically the effect, don't try combining two very different effects. There are cards that duplicate statuses, but not one that shares deaths.
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1020872#msg1020872
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2012, 12:40:08 pm »
Then make that specifically the effect, don't try combining two very different effects. There are cards that duplicate statuses, but not one that shares deaths.
Is this section called card ideas and art or am i missing something?
So basically i can't propose a card that do that just beacuse you tell that there's no one actaully ingame?!
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1020919#msg1020919
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2012, 05:15:53 pm »
Then make that specifically the effect, don't try combining two very different effects. There are cards that duplicate statuses, but not one that shares deaths.
Is this section called card ideas and art or am i missing something?
So basically i can't propose a card that do that just beacuse you tell that there's no one actaully ingame?!
I really don't feel like you're giving me tips at all, so if you please want to continue helping improving the idea instead of writing elements clichés without a foundation i'll be grateful.


He's just saying that your card text doesn't exactly fit his standards, and possibly the community standards. For example, I believe that card creators should use all of their power to make clear, unambiguous card texts that can be correctly interpreted without the aid of supplementary notes (of which I must point out you did not provide). His point was that the keyword "status" already has a very specific meaning in the current version of Elements the Game, and your card text does not use keyword with the meaning it is associated with. As a result, it requires supplementary notes that explain the mechanic as you envision it. Furthermore, although it pains me to suggest this, I recommend you change the keyword "status" as you use it to something that has not yet been defined in the game, for example "fate", along with sufficient explanation with supplementary notes.

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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1020972#msg1020972
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2012, 08:09:05 pm »
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Then make that specifically the effect, don't try combining two very different effects. There are cards that duplicate statuses, but not one that shares deaths.
Is this section called card ideas and art or am i missing something?
So basically i can't propose a card that do that just beacuse you tell that there's no one actaully ingame?!
I really don't feel like you're giving me tips at all, so if you please want to continue helping improving the idea instead of writing elements clichés without a foundation i'll be grateful.


He's just saying that your card text doesn't exactly fit his standards, and possibly the community standards. For example, I believe that card creators should use all of their power to make clear, unambiguous card texts that can be correctly interpreted without the aid of supplementary notes (of which I must point out you did not provide). His point was that the keyword "status" already has a very specific meaning in the current version of Elements the Game, and your card text does not use keyword with the meaning it is associated with. As a result, it requires supplementary notes that explain the mechanic as you envision it. Furthermore, although it pains me to suggest this, I recommend you change the keyword "status" as you use it to something that has not yet been defined in the game, for example "fate", along with sufficient explanation with supplementary notes.
He have clearly said that the effect is broken and that having an effect that implies shared status and death effect can't be done.
While i do agree, that the wording, as it is now isn't clever and that the death effect as Odin noticed can be too powerful, i can't stand that i can't decide how to express myself. I happily accept constructive crticism.
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1020995#msg1020995
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2012, 09:28:12 pm »
Then make that specifically the effect, don't try combining two very different effects. There are cards that duplicate statuses, but not one that shares deaths.
Is this section called card ideas and art or am i missing something?
So basically i can't propose a card that do that just beacuse you tell that there's no one actaully ingame?!
I really don't feel like you're giving me tips at all, so if you please want to continue helping improving the idea instead of writing elements clichés without a foundation i'll be grateful.


He's just saying that your card text doesn't exactly fit his standards, and possibly the community standards. For example, I believe that card creators should use all of their power to make clear, unambiguous card texts that can be correctly interpreted without the aid of supplementary notes (of which I must point out you did not provide). His point was that the keyword "status" already has a very specific meaning in the current version of Elements the Game, and your card text does not use keyword with the meaning it is associated with. As a result, it requires supplementary notes that explain the mechanic as you envision it. Furthermore, although it pains me to suggest this, I recommend you change the keyword "status" as you use it to something that has not yet been defined in the game, for example "fate", along with sufficient explanation with supplementary notes.

Thank you, I'm sorry if I came across as harsh or rude, but this is spot on to what I was trying to say. I was merely making a suggestion as to a way to make the card without having to introduce entirely new mechanics(may be the wrong word here). On the other hand, if you can fit the intended effect entirely into the text box provided, then you've solved everything.
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1021009#msg1021009
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2012, 09:52:18 pm »
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Then make that specifically the effect, don't try combining two very different effects. There are cards that duplicate statuses, but not one that shares deaths.
Is this section called card ideas and art or am i missing something?
So basically i can't propose a card that do that just beacuse you tell that there's no one actaully ingame?!
I really don't feel like you're giving me tips at all, so if you please want to continue helping improving the idea instead of writing elements clichés without a foundation i'll be grateful.


He's just saying that your card text doesn't exactly fit his standards, and possibly the community standards. For example, I believe that card creators should use all of their power to make clear, unambiguous card texts that can be correctly interpreted without the aid of supplementary notes (of which I must point out you did not provide). His point was that the keyword "status" already has a very specific meaning in the current version of Elements the Game, and your card text does not use keyword with the meaning it is associated with. As a result, it requires supplementary notes that explain the mechanic as you envision it. Furthermore, although it pains me to suggest this, I recommend you change the keyword "status" as you use it to something that has not yet been defined in the game, for example "fate", along with sufficient explanation with supplementary notes.

Thank you, I'm sorry if I came across as harsh or rude, but this is spot on to what I was trying to say. I was merely making a suggestion as to a way to make the card without having to introduce entirely new mechanics(may be the wrong word here). On the other hand, if you can fit the intended effect entirely into the text box provided, then you've solved everything.
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Sure there's room for write that, but my first concern is if the death effect may result in an OP concept, as Odin already said, so i'm looking for some more opinions on that.
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1021020#msg1021020
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2012, 10:21:23 pm »
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Then make that specifically the effect, don't try combining two very different effects. There are cards that duplicate statuses, but not one that shares deaths.
Is this section called card ideas and art or am i missing something?
So basically i can't propose a card that do that just beacuse you tell that there's no one actaully ingame?!
I really don't feel like you're giving me tips at all, so if you please want to continue helping improving the idea instead of writing elements clichés without a foundation i'll be grateful.


He's just saying that your card text doesn't exactly fit his standards, and possibly the community standards. For example, I believe that card creators should use all of their power to make clear, unambiguous card texts that can be correctly interpreted without the aid of supplementary notes (of which I must point out you did not provide). His point was that the keyword "status" already has a very specific meaning in the current version of Elements the Game, and your card text does not use keyword with the meaning it is associated with. As a result, it requires supplementary notes that explain the mechanic as you envision it. Furthermore, although it pains me to suggest this, I recommend you change the keyword "status" as you use it to something that has not yet been defined in the game, for example "fate", along with sufficient explanation with supplementary notes.

Thank you, I'm sorry if I came across as harsh or rude, but this is spot on to what I was trying to say. I was merely making a suggestion as to a way to make the card without having to introduce entirely new mechanics(may be the wrong word here). On the other hand, if you can fit the intended effect entirely into the text box provided, then you've solved everything.
NP.
Sure there's room for write that, but my first concern is if the death effect may result in an OP concept, as Odin already said, so i'm looking for some more opinions on that.
Thx for the feedback Ana.

Which also influenced my earlier response, making the card do one thing or the other would be relatively balanced either way. Maybe its that other post that's messed up =/
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1021036#msg1021036
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2012, 11:28:38 pm »
Which also influenced my earlier response, making the card do one thing or the other would be relatively balanced either way. Maybe its that other post that's messed up =/
Nope, even splitting the abilites as Odin have noticed the death one will still be too powerful.
The problem is:
How to balance the mass death effect without changing the theme?
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1021037#msg1021037
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2012, 11:30:16 pm »
I say option number two. When I think of an angel, I think of angels that are for one person at a time. This is keep the mega death effects from happening, and be thematic at least in my head.
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1021038#msg1021038
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2012, 11:38:39 pm »
I say option number two. When I think of an angel, I think of angels that are for one person at a time. This is keep the mega death effects from happening, and be thematic at least in my head.
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I was think that giving it a limit of 2 bonds will be an acceptable deal, since it requires more time or a SoR combo and so more cards or more turns, but i might be wrong or overcomplicating things.
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1021090#msg1021090
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2012, 05:36:36 am »
This is not a new concept - see http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20711.0.html in the crucible archive. There was another similar card also, but I don't remember its name.
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Re: Angel Of Destiny | Angel Of Destiny https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44986.msg1021106#msg1021106
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2012, 08:34:43 am »
Not so rut, this is a reverse implementation of that idea.(One card shares its statuses with others it has attached to vs. one card having its status affected by all others)
The death sharing is also new.
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