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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073834#msg1073834
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 03:38:51 pm »
Elemental loyalty, idk.
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073835#msg1073835
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2013, 03:39:30 pm »
Quote from: Nepycros on May 24, 2013, 03:36:29 pm
There is none. As soon as Ageless hits the field, it's better. Even cooler to use Luciferase on, I imagine.
As soon as it hits the field, it's the same as a photon.
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073837#msg1073837
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2013, 03:41:23 pm »
Quote from: Rutarete on May 24, 2013, 03:39:30 pm
Quote from: Nepycros on May 24, 2013, 03:36:29 pm
There is none. As soon as Ageless hits the field, it's better. Even cooler to use Luciferase on, I imagine.
As soon as it hits the field, it's the same as a photon.

Unless you wait 1 turn. Then it's stronger, at the expense of 1 quanta.
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073838#msg1073838
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2013, 03:42:00 pm »
But the thing is that you have one more choice than you do with photon. If you want, you can let it grow, or you can play it immediately. Slight nerf to 0|1?
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073839#msg1073839
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2013, 03:44:05 pm »
Simply raising the cost by 1 :time and stats by 1|1 is sufficient.
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073840#msg1073840
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2013, 03:44:57 pm »
Quote from: Nepycros on May 24, 2013, 03:41:23 pm
Quote from: Rutarete on May 24, 2013, 03:39:30 pm
Quote from: Nepycros on May 24, 2013, 03:36:29 pm
There is none. As soon as Ageless hits the field, it's better. Even cooler to use Luciferase on, I imagine.
As soon as it hits the field, it's the same as a photon.

Unless you wait 1 turn. Then it's stronger, at the expense of 1 quanta.
You wait a turn, and Micro Abomination is still better. Don't forget Deja Vu
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073841#msg1073841
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2013, 03:45:28 pm »
Comparing an upgraded card to an unupgraded card is apples to oranges.
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073842#msg1073842
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2013, 03:46:28 pm »
Quote from: Nepycros on May 24, 2013, 03:45:28 pm
Comparing an upgraded card to an unupgraded card is apples to oranges.
I'm not comparing the card so much as I'm comparing the stats.
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073843#msg1073843
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2013, 03:46:52 pm »
Quote from: Rutarete on May 24, 2013, 03:46:28 pm
Quote from: Nepycros on May 24, 2013, 03:45:28 pm
Comparing an upgraded card to an unupgraded card is apples to oranges.
I'm not comparing the card so much as I'm comparing the stats.

And the stats of an upgraded card differ from unupgraded by up to 3 quanta. You could compare it to Abyss Crawler and it wouldn't matter.
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073845#msg1073845
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2013, 03:51:45 pm »
Quote from: Nepycros on May 24, 2013, 03:46:52 pm
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Comparing an upgraded card to an unupgraded card is apples to oranges.
I'm not comparing the card so much as I'm comparing the stats.

And the stats of an upgraded card differ from unupgraded by up to 3 quanta. You could compare it to Abyss Crawler and it wouldn't matter.
Fine then, we'll take it out of upped/unupped context

You have a 1/1 for 1, a 2/4 for 1, and a 1/1 for 1 that can copy itself. Which do you choose? Not the first one.
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073847#msg1073847
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2013, 03:54:34 pm »
I still state a 2/4 for 1 doesn't count. If it were unupped, it'd be 2/4 for 2, thanks to the cost calculator.
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Re: Ageless | Ageless Ancient https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49448.msg1073850#msg1073850
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2013, 03:59:46 pm »
Think of horned frog. That might be a fair comparison unupped.
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