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Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430101#msg430101
« on: November 24, 2011, 05:02:57 pm »
NAME:
Aether Being
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
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ATK|HP:
3|3
TEXT:
Liberalize:  Moves to your opponent side each turn.
NAME:
Aetherion
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
1 :aether
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|3
TEXT:
Liberalize:  Moves to your opponent side each turn.
ART:
still don't have it
IDEA:
karis
NOTES:
this card don't have any passive skill.  so this ability can lobotomize.

don't have much to say.  just want to hear other opinion about this card mechanic.  :P
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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430111#msg430111
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2011, 05:28:15 pm »
I think its interesting, though it seems a lot like the card chaz, and it also fits entropy more i think.
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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430140#msg430140
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2011, 07:21:50 pm »
it also fits entropy more i think.
I second this.

Also, I don't see the idea behind the mechanic. Well, having Dim Shields and Lobotomizer in :aether helps making this card useful, but by itself it just look like... it just feels bad :-\

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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430201#msg430201
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2011, 09:32:44 pm »
Interesting idea, but doesn't fit the idea of :aether. I have no doubt it'd do great in a mono :aether deck, but this feels more like :entropy or :darkness.

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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430339#msg430339
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2011, 02:17:02 am »
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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430341#msg430341
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2011, 02:19:19 am »
I'm not sure how much use this would be... any buffs hurt as much as help you... same for nerfs... what would you use this card for?
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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430344#msg430344
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2011, 02:23:00 am »
I'm not sure how much use this would be... any buffs hurt as much as help you... same for nerfs... what would you use this card for?
Boost its attack, antimatter it, then lobotomize it. (all three can be done with :entropy)
Or you could use a purple nymph.

I think that a creature with such a unique ability as this shouldn't have such absolutely pitiful stats. 6 or 7 atk should more fit it.

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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430346#msg430346
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2011, 02:41:45 am »
oops... missed the part about it being an active ability
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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430439#msg430439
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2011, 06:52:19 am »
I have rarely asked this about a card, but I will do it now:

How is this supposed to benefit you? 

Are you supposed to play it against AI, hope that the AI buffs it, then get it back and lobotomize it?  Or do you just let it flip back and forth and deal as much damage to you as it does to your opponent?
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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430450#msg430450
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2011, 08:13:21 am »
@everyone
why entropy?  i don't have much to say why it fit  :aether   but why  :entropy (or  :darkness)

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why don't you just see how to use it like anyone?    why are you hope your opponent to buff it?  it's absolute nonsense.   the greatest idea you can create huh?

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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430591#msg430591
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2011, 04:58:53 pm »
@everyone
why entropy?  i don't have much to say why it fit  :aether   but why  :entropy (or  :darkness)

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why don't you just see how to use it like anyone?    why are you hope your opponent to buff it?  it's absolute nonsense.   the greatest idea you can create huh?
People are saying that it should fit in Entropy because that is really the only element that has synergies with this card.  Entropy has Antimatter, a cheap buff, and Chaos Seed, which you can use if you decide that it is doing more harm than good.

I don't "just see how to use it like anyone" because no one has really posted how this card would help you.  You didn't put in the notes how the card is supposed to be used, and the only person to post something that would make the card beneficial towards you is Furballdn, who suggested that you use Chaos Power, Antimatter, and Chaos Seed, three Entropy cards (although the first two cards and Lobotomizer would work better), to end up with, possibly, something that heals you for 4 hp/turn and can easily be killed.  (Why not just play a Shard?)

Post a deck that this card would work in.  OldTrees usually asks for three situations in which the card would work well, but I only want one deck in which this card would be more useful than any other card.

"it's absolute nonsense.   the greatest idea you can create huh?"
I'm sorry, but what the hell are you talking about?  In case you didn't realize, this creature, left untouched, will deal three damage to you and three damage to your opponent on alternating turns.  I do not consider that more useful than just using Lightning / Thunderbolt for the same exact cost and not taking any damage from my own creatures.  You are going to insult the notion that I would not know why anyone would ever use this card?

EDIT: Sorry, Ekki, I didn't realize that you also tried to come up with a way that the card could be useful.  IMO, this is completely futile.

EDIT 2:  I now realize that this card could possibly fall thematically, although not so much strategically, under Aether.  It deals the same damage to both players.  Aether is about balance.
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Re: Aether Being | Aetherion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34079.msg430604#msg430604
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2011, 05:13:53 pm »
I don't "just see how to use it like anyone" because no one has really posted how this card would help you.  You didn't put in the notes how the card is supposed to be used, and the only person to post something that would make the card beneficial towards you is Furballdn and Ekki (me), who suggested that you use Chaos Power, Antimatter, and Chaos Seed, three Entropy cards (although the first two cards and Lobotomizer would work better), to end up with, possibly, something that heals you for 4 hp/turn and can easily be killed.
It's true that it's hard to use (maybe it's just useless, and DEFINETLY not worth that 2|1 :aether nor the card space), and it SHOULD have a "how to" in the notes. I mean, how the hell I'm supposed to take advantage of this card? Well, I pointed out that Dim Shield and Lobotomizer helps, and both are in the same element, but it's still sooo UP...


Further stuff... Right now it's both UP and hard to use. I say either noticeably increase its stats (like 6|6 or 7|7) while keeping the cost, or male it cost 1 :aether | 1 :rainbow (not so sure about the upped stats here) and even then increase its stats a bit more.
I'm not sooo afraid of this creature being free. Mostly since if you fractal it, you'd be hurting you the next turn... Maybe Dim Shield will be a problem here, but I'll leave that to the forum's opinion...

 

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