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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1171821#msg1171821
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2014, 12:49:03 pm »
But, yes, it does imply three gifts. If that is the case, then 4 | 3 should cover the cost nicely.
And then it's just be a SoSe variant.
Its better than SoSe in some ways because it doesn't cost quanta to play the 3 random cards.

It's also balenced out with the fact its a creature, so 1 CC card early can take out 3 cards.
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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1172112#msg1172112
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2014, 07:32:33 am »
Wow!  Thanks for all the replies.  It's giving me a lot to think about

The card text seems to imply that you get a random creature/perm every time you unwrap, i.e. 3 times total. Would be nice with a confirmation of what the intent is (1 random or 1 per activation).
Gift logic implies you have to peel back all the layers before you get the goodies inside.
Because that's how gifts work irl.

Frozengaia has interpreted my intention with the how I wanted the card to work, but I can see (now) how the wording is ambiguous.  I kind of like both ideas now(creature/permanent each term vs 3 turns to reveal one.  I think to stick with the "gift" theme, I will keep it so that you have to unwrap all the layers before you get your surprise. 

Any suggestions on how to re-word the text so this is the intention?

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But, yes, it does imply three gifts. If that is the case, then 4 | 3 should cover the cost nicely.
And then it's just be a SoSe variant.
Its better than SoSe in some ways because it doesn't cost quanta to play the 3 random cards.

It's also balenced out with the fact its a creature, so 1 CC card early can take out 3 cards.

My apologies, I don't have a SoSe yet, so I didn't even think were other cards which were similar.  I'm also not quite sure what you mean about it being a creature?  I had intended it to be in a permanent slot, until it becomes a creature or permanent.

I originally put the cost so high because I wanted the card reveal to be anything just like you (should) expect from a gift.  It's one of the reasons I had trouble with deciding whether to make it entropy or other.  I kind of want to change it to be an other card, just so it can be a little more versatile.  Hmmm....    :-\

I've dropped the cost to 4|4 for now, and hopefully I can get more feedback on what else to change.

Thanks again for all the comments and feedback!
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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1172113#msg1172113
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2014, 07:34:17 am »
make it a creature because adrenaline

I don't think I understand this post.  Can you elaborate for me please?
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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1172114#msg1172114
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2014, 07:38:51 am »
make it a creature because adrenaline

I don't think I understand this post.  Can you elaborate for me please?

if it was a creature with 0 attack and you used adrenaline on it it would generate 3 creatures in one turn.
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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1172119#msg1172119
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2014, 08:02:13 am »
make it a creature because adrenaline

I don't think I understand this post.  Can you elaborate for me please?

if it was a creature with 0 attack and you used adrenaline on it it would generate 3 creatures in one turn.

Oh right gotcha.  I see now.

I actually meant that after three turns, the gift is revealed, instead of one per turn.  I's still working on the wording for that. 
So all that would happen is that is you would open the gift in one turn instead of waiting 3. 
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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1172121#msg1172121
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2014, 08:23:52 am »
then in that case it's much worse than shard of serendipity
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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1172122#msg1172122
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2014, 08:36:09 am »
make it a creature because adrenaline

I don't think I understand this post.  Can you elaborate for me please?

if it was a creature with 0 attack and you used adrenaline on it it would generate 3 creatures in one turn.
0 attack hits 5 times.
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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1172123#msg1172123
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2014, 09:34:58 am »
make it a creature because adrenaline

I don't think I understand this post.  Can you elaborate for me please?

if it was a creature with 0 attack and you used adrenaline on it it would generate 3 creatures in one turn.
0 attack hits 5 times.

yeah but it would still generate 3 things.
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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1172146#msg1172146
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2014, 05:17:50 pm »
NAME:
Gift
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
2 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Layer Unwraping:
In 3 turns, Gift becomes a random creature or permanent.
NAME:
Gift
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
1 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Layer Unwraping:
In 3 turns, Gift becomes a random creature or permanent.

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Re: Zanz's Christmas Present - Gift https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57109.msg1172150#msg1172150
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2014, 06:11:47 pm »
I like Frozen's version more. 2|1 :entropy is more than enough for a 3 turn delay on 1 creature/permanent. I'm wondering what it does if it generates a shield or weapon.
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